I just got a mail from zipato team that next week on the light + building show in Frankfurt they are gone show the zipatile 2 and zipabox 2. Does anyone have Info on these devices ?
Haven't found anything on the new ZipaBox and ZipaTile.
There's some information on the ZipaMicro: https://www.zipato.com/product/zipamicroI like the ZipaMicro and I'll most likely end up getting one or more, the drawback is if the cluster / pro license model remains the same.
not yet, it will be released at the show then we will find out some specs hopefully. This is what all companies do, they wait for a big show to release new products, better publicity.
Personally cant wait to see what they are like.
Wish you well Zipato with the product launch, good luck.
I do not onderstand tile 2 what about tile 1 support?
As with zipabox which we support for more then 4 years now, we will always remain at your disposal for any problems that may occur.
Dear Zipato Team,
also from my side all the best for the launch of the new boxes!
As an existing user of a zipabox, I'm very interested on the new box. I hope you will get the backup/restore function to a state where at least it will be possible to upgrade from zipabox1 to zipabox2. If this will be possible please put me on the purchaser list!
If Zbox 2 is still compatible with Zbox 1 modules I would definitely upgrade also, need more horsepower on my box.
I would also upgrade if there was an way to migrate everything to a new device. Got a Zipatox today and im intressted in Zipatile 2.
Great news... it is a must to offer an upgrade possibility especially for cluster users with BIG installations
will it be possible to move the PRO licence/or any licence to upgraded system?
Hard to read picture but thanks for sharing.
If you open the picture and zoom it's not too bad....
POE and integrated Ethernet is a great addition, Power through HVAC / C-Wire is brilliant - that'll make it easier for a lot of North American home owners to integrate and replace their existing thermostats.
I like the Openther function. This will definitely make a great feature for the Zipatile.
Yeah opentherm +10
For me the best upgrade, is the 433mhz as optional, and of course, the 3G/4G communication!
Any news for the ZipaBox 2?
Thank you for the photo Chris Gen!
Zigbee is now Optional.
433mhz optional, nice.
Android Oreo - Very Nice.
I just hope we have a good glass screen this time.
Unfortunately it seems that there is still no IO homecontrol support included. That's sad.
Increadible Zipato you are presenting your new products on the Light and Building show and all you share with your most loyal customers/ambassadors is a lousy, unclear picture ?
If you are proud of the products that you develop than please share that with us in an appropriate way. We all get an email that you will be revealing a new product per March 18........and then there is silence...... more silence...
If this is supposed to be a 'teaser' campaign it is the worst I have ever seen.
Please share specs, pictures, availability, pricing etc.
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I totally agree! Worst product launch ever!
Sadly this is the normal way of zipato.
And they use every opportunity to show that they have no intention to change
Zipato is a relatively small company. Of course there are product launches not like apple but the Zipato team is doing a great job. I've been using the Zipabox for 3 years and although not everything is perfect, i love it.
Even a small company can write a press release on their homepage with some updates. Yes, they make great products but the info is crap!
It's rare that companies write press releases about prototypes and products in "assessment phase".
Seems the main mistake here was not to mention, in the email that was sent out, that it's a preview / prototype which made us all think it was an official product launch / release.
Come on guys, be reasonable. Every company launch new products at trade shows. Companies have a press release notifying media they are releasing a new product, sometimes they don't even tell you what, use the show as a draw card, then release product details in the following weeks. Why should this change for Zipato?
I know we are all impatient to see and get the specs sheets, but just show a little a patience and understanding.
If it makes you feel any, none of the Zipato dealers have any more info then you loyal customers as you put it.
@AdrianThank you for the clarification.
Zipatile2 is still under development. We have presented the working prototype at Light + Building 2018 exhibition and we expect to start shipping it in September this year. It will have completely new hardware design but it will stay compatible with the current version (backup/restore will be compatible as well). Since the hardware is significantly improved (detailed specification will be published on this forum soon...) the end-user price will be higher than for the current version of Zipatile (not yet defined).
Zipabox2 is currently in quality assessment phase and we expect to start shipping it in May. It will have the same design as the current version but the hardware specification will be improved (stronger CPU, Flash and Ram plus WiFi, Battery backup, PoE and USB). Price for the main unit which will come without Z-wave module will be around 150 Euro, and the price of the Z-wave expansion module will be around 50Euro so the final price of the Z-wave enabled unit will stay approximately the same as for the existing version (just it will be higher value for money).
More or less, this is all we can disclose for now. Very soon we will reveal more information and hopefully get some positive feedback from users.
And what about the new Android and IOS Apps I heard of and new Software release for the Zipabox ?
So the new Zipabox will be unusable out of the box. Why would you sell the Zipabox without Z-wave?
Thanks for sharing info Sebastian, if there is going to be the ability of restoring all my stuff from my current zipabox to a new one count me in already to buy zipabox 2. I don't think it will be unusable since you could do integrations through IP devices like Phillips Hue, Sonos, etc. although I'm not sure about no native communication with devices, it will look more like a PLC where all I/O modules are separate.
Being a customer for a long time now, I can't wait to get the new Zipabox !
Work hard. I wish your team the best success.
Well, surely not understandable for end users but this gives greater possibilities for possible applications as the initial price of the box will be lower. So if integrator needs other features but not zwave, this is better solution...
As there is the possibility to attach future Controllers (box2 + Tile2) via PoE, I can stand Zwave as an Option. (don't forget there is no change in pricing for the whole package - not counted more power/RAM and PoE)
The controllers get more independant from one connection system.
In my eyes a very good move.
I think the steps used by the Zipato team follow not only a good road, but a great way; anyone who knows about automation realizes that not only "their" houses will be connected, but their buildings, so the greater the possibilities for better systems interaction.
When the vision is strictly the personal application and "small" obvious that the "bad" criticism will come as we think of producing only for "my" need, but if Zipato thinks of being a global company, which will make it different of others only Z-Wave? So why would Zipato not think at all? only in the "I"? Oh yes the critics were good or not?
I read reports here a bit harsh, I think that the opinion was purely personal, but still Zipato kept the "acid" texts on the forum, which was followed by the very timely response of Sebastian.
Think if the company is not ahead of its time, just have few products and services cute? Congratulations team Zipato, we've been expecting something like this for years!
Thinking that I can use the Zipato system in a building with more than 100 units and integrating it with the building itself is a wonder, similar to PLC? Yes maybe, but I think: far beyond, once again congratulations to a person who loves automation!
Still going further, solution of very small size at very robust solutions, why not? Perfect Zipato Team! Perfect!!!
Sure they have new products.
But the software should be upgraded, make a plugin store so users can contribute with new integrations easy.
Make the "integrations" they already made much better. example make Sonos much better so you can add playlist group ungroup etc. with out the need of hard code everything. same with philips hue, select scenes etc etc just 2 examples of many.
and with plugin store you will make a lot better system very fast with users help.
Well I definitely agree that Plugins from 3rd party developers would be an absolute huge opportunity and feature, but I also absolutely understand that as Zipato is Closed system, this will not really happen in the near future...
Shame as some things take ages to integrate vs. others like Fibaro, Vera,...
As you know i have been a preacher for a plugin/driver store for quite some time. It would speed alot of integrations up, not to mention it attracts developers and software engineers to the platform, this in turn create a large marketplace for Zipato. Plus 3rd party developers are more inclined to further develop their plugins with extra feature as Allan mentions.
It also allows Zipato to increase their support base, and if done correctly, then then have the option to officially purchase and integrate a plugin with out the needed investment by themselves through software engineers.
Look at all the biggest and most popular Home Automation platforms, Control4, Fibaro, Vera, Homey, Smarthings, Crestron, etc etc, they work and are popular due to 3rd party drivers. It is long overdue. Look at closed ecosystems, Apple Homekit, and how they struggle.
Yes. Plugins would be great.
A year ago I would have been the first in the row to buy a new product from Zipato, especially the new Tile. But I'm very disappointed by the support team, leaving urgent tickets open without responding for months. (Ticket 10187-02-01) My ZipaTile is rebooting by itself sometimes twice a day, not even sure if it is a software or hardware fault. This refrains me from buying new stuff from Zipato.
I also miss debugging tools in the software. Why is there no way to see what happened when you send a Z-Wave command and nothing happened. Did the signal not reach the device, did the device respond with an error, ...? Twice a year I have problems with scripts, right after the daylight saving time is changed. Scripts stop executing etc. This is a long standing bug, but still not solved.
I do understand Zipato is a small company and needs to sell products to survive, but some of these issues need to be solved before releasing a new product so your existing users will buy an upgrade for their domotica system.
I agree that there is complete lack of debugging tools, example, there is no simple way to debug rules execution.
Any news about Zipabox v2 release date ?
Shipping in may, but forgot to say what year 😀
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