The state of Zipato iOS app

Filip Radelic shared this idea 2 years ago
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Hello everyone,


I'm Filip, an iOS Developer that joined Zipato a month and a half ago. I wanted to introduce myself and update you a little on our progress with iOS development. Since I'm pretty new here, I might not know all of history, but what I do know is there were a lot of broken promises regarding iOS app so far. That's why I'm not going to make any more promises, just honestly tell you where we are at the moment.


Our team is aware of all the problems with the app and I can assure you that it's in everyone's best intentions to fix all those problems and make Zipato as good as we can. That's why an effort was made to replace the current "My Zipato" app with a new version. Unfortunately, for various reasons that I won't go into as there is no point now, that has failed to happen so far.


When I joined the company, we took a good hard look at all the existing code and we decided unanimously to just throw it all away and really start from scratch this time and focus on quality and best practices instead of trying to meet deadlines we set for ourselves by doing things quickly and producing a pile of bugs. In the meantime, we did fix some things in My Zipato app and sent it to App Store Review yesterday.


What's new in My Zipato 2.2:

• Fahrenheit support and general reliability improvements for thermostats

• New user role "Tenant" with some limited permissions was recently added to my.zipato.com so we implemented that in the app too.

• Login screen user interface & experience improvements like pressing return to go to next field or start the login process

• Data migration that prepares some stuff in background for launch of our new app

• Everything is now sorted by name like it is on web by default

• Removed local connection picker as we're currently reworking that system for the new apps (both iOS and Android)

• Support for new iPhones, including @3x icons for iPhone 6 Plus & 6S Plus (a couple of screenshots here)

• Lots of other smaller bug fixes, optimizations etc.


Now, I know there are a lot of other issues you would like to be fixed and you probably think some are more important and you're right, but we had to evaluate how hard it is to fix vs how important it is to fix. This will hopefully be the last ever update of My Zipato before we replace it with the new app so we didn't want to spend too much time on it and decided to focus on new app instead.


Back to the new app. What we have so far is:

• Universal app, meaning iPhone & iPad, finally (looks really cool on 12.9" iPad Pro :))

• Device Browser with basic functionality that shows states (online/trouble/offline) and current values, but it's done in a new way that is super fast and reliable (a small part of this is also included in My Zipato 2.2 update so we'll see if it has any effect at scale).

• Some basic device controls, specifically switches and level controls at the moment. We still have some more fundamental things to handle and then it's basically just gonna be adding support for all the device types one at a time. That's also the point at which we'll probably start with TestFlight, but I said no promises so I'm not gonna mention any dates :)

• Scene browser with reordering and running support (no creating/editing yet as that depends heavily on individual device support mentioned above)

• A basic Apple Watch app that for now only has a list of scenes and an ability to run any scene with a single tap. We still haven't decided what other features Watch app will have, but we'd like to keep it as simple as possible while still providing some value.

• Very fast startup and sync (both loading values and updating them to server).

• We spent a few days nailing the handling of usernames and passwords. Basically, if you ever logged in into any of our apps (the old one that was named "Zipato" or the current My Zipato 2.2) or my.zipato.com in Safari on your device (or any device using same iCloud account), you won't have to type your username and password in again (unless you changed it since, obviously :)).


What we still need to do before we can show you this new version:

• Finalize designs. We're still actively exploring a lot of options and I've read all your suggestions on this forum and I will keep reading them.

• Implement some more basic functionality. For example, I'm currently working on switching between boxes. We want to make that simple and fast enough that you don't have to use multiple apps for multiple boxes like I've seen some of you here do :)


That's all for now, I'll try to keep you updated as development goes on. Thanks everyone for your patience and understanding.

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As everyone following this thread already know (and for those that don't, I suggest reading the first post before this one), I joined Zipato and started the development of new iOS app from scratch about 3 months ago. At that time the goal was basically to replace the current app with a new one made from scratch with pretty much same functionality, but more polished and solid, then continue improving that with new features. My personal goal at the time based on that plan was to have a beta within two months, but as I said in the first post in this thread, I didn't want to make any date-related promises. Mostly because software development almost never goes according to initial plan. Features are added and removed, priorities are shifted, people get sick etc.

Development of the new app started at a really good pace and we had internal alpha builds with most basic functionality within 2 weeks. First slowdowns occurred about a month and a half in when we updated the old app which caused some new bugs as well as bringing more attention to older bugs. I'll just quote myself from back then:


  1. I spent much more time cleaning up the mess in old app than I intended to so I didn't have as much time to work on the new app. Still I hope taking a little time to work on the old app has convinced our community that something is going on since we're still not ready to show you the new app. And I know it has given me great perspective into past mistakes that I want to avoid in the new app.

After that first update I continued investing approximately 10-12 hours a week in old app in parallel with new app and overall there were 12 updates, which is exactly as many updates in 3 months as Zipato iOS apps had in their lifetime! Granted, these were mostly smaller updates, but it's a pace we're planning to keep with the old app until new one is released, and then continue with the new one once that is released as well. Also, since new app is much better built, those updates should be more about adding features and polishing stuff then just mostly fixing bugs.

A few weeks ago we had quite a major priority shift for the new app where we decided it needed to be much more powerful than just a remote control, so all efforts were focused on creating a great new native device manager. At that moment I realized it will take at least another month or two for new app to be ready, so I invested some time in bringing iPad support to old app to make the wait easier. That update is probably gonna go out some time this week out now. It's nowhere near a perfect solution for iPad, but it's much better than just a stretched-out iPhone app.

The end result of all this is gonna be an initial release of new app that is way more powerful than originally planned and that includes most of web app's features (most notable one missing is rule creator, but that will be added later too). We think you're going to love it and that it will be worth the wait. Still no date-related promises, but I hope we'll slowly start with TestFlight soon™. More info about that when the time comes. Thanks for your patience and all the feedback so far.

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Hope you hade some use of my ideas and have seen them.


Really looking forward to be part of TestFlight !


Best regards Jacob

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Filip. All respect to you. Share the love, we are here to read and support you.

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Great news! Thank you!!

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One of the most positive posts I've read so far....


I wish you good working spirit and looking forward to installing the new iOS app when it's ready to publish...


regards

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Good news ! I'm almost about to give up. Now I think that I can wait a little . Hoping for impairment before the appearance .That can come later .

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Hello Filip, thank you for your honesty and openness. Fantastic news. I am android all the way, but the IOS app really needs some help, especially if Zipato wish to crack the US market. I look forward to helping out with TestFlight also, and I am sure you are aware that Jacob will be your main correspondence with this community, his dedication to the IOS and Zipato is second to none. Good luck and God Speed

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Thanks for the kind words everyone :)

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Welcome and good luck!


Please take a look at the Philips Hue Watch App: You can configure the things which should appear in the watch app. E.g. you can tell the app to show a certain switch or thermostat in the watch app and it will appear.

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Thanks, and yes, I think we'll go with something along those lines for our Watch app.

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I'm having some issues with the new release that hit the App Store today. Seems likes everything is getting all jammed together. For some reason, my switches are showing up with a red background too.

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I don't know how that red background got through, sorry, I'll submit a fix today. But that second and third screenshots are new to me so I'm gonna need some more info. Does that happen as soon as you open a list or when you try to tap a specific on/off switch? Only with switches or all lists? Is that iPhone 6 or 6s and what iOS version?

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There is something really weird going on with those red backgrounds. They are definitely removed from the last build that I sent for review and when I run that build directly on my iPhone from Xcode they don't show, but when I download it from App Store they do. I'm looking into possibility that Apple published the wrong build. Do you have a thermostat? Can you check if mode button is clickable for you?

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no! mode is not working!

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Andreas, if you want I will send you a TestFlight invite so you can install a version with a fix that is not yet on the App Store. Edit: never mind, just realized I invited you this morning, sorry, it's early :)

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Can I join your beta test TestFlight group? I have a iPad Air and iPhone 6 Plus

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Mikael, I edited out your email address from your post because I can see it from your profile. You will be added to the beta when it's available.

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Good news, My Zipato 2.2 has been approved by Apple a few hours ago and by now you should see it in your updates tab.

To reiterate, here's what's new:

• Support for 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones

• Thermostat Fahrenheit support and reliability fixes

• Faster and more reliable value updates

• Tenant user limitations

• Login screen fixes

• Removed local connection UI

• Login data migration in preparation for our new app

• Device sorting always done by name like on web by default

• Lots of other bug fixes and performance improvements

There seem to be some weird new bugs as reported by Nathan Eppley above, but I'm already looking into that and will probably submit another update today. I will also publish a TestFlight version with fixes as soon as I got them.

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For the first time, I now see weather station :) on Iphone 6s

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my switches are showing up with a red background too, on iphone 6s

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Yep, that's a known bug and we'll have an update this week. But I'm glad that your weather stations are showing :)

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Hi Filip.


It's an iPhone 6s, running iOS v9.3.


It happes with all the lists, but only if you start using the app immediately. If I sit and wait a few seconds after it loads, it doesn't happen. But if I start opening things as soon as it loads, I can reproduce the issue every time.


This only occurs when the app is opened after being completely closed, as opposed to still running in the background.

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Thank you Nathan, I was able to reproduce the issue with steps you outlined and will probably have a fix submitted by tomorrow.

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Fix for both red background and the broken UI bug that Nathan discovered has been sent to Apple for TestFlight review. As soon as they approve it for external testing, everyone that emailed me will automatically get an invite. If no other major bugs are discovered by tomorrow, I will submit that build to App Store as well.

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My Zipato 2.2.1 (build 24) is now up on TestFlight. Those of you that emailed me for invites should've received them.

I'll submit the update to App Store layer today if no other major bugs are found so it should be available by the end of this or start of next week.

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Filip, I can not find your e-mail ???


I also have one request:


- is there a possibility to add a protection (like pin or just to confirm option) by switches ????


Why, because If I accidentally open one door with the switch, I have to close it manually.

Which is not a problem, but I live a few KM away.


ImperiHome has this option & I like it.

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We won't be adding any new functionality to the old app, but we'll consider it for the new one. Can you tell me more about this door switch? What device is it and why can it only be opened?

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I use fibaro FGS-221 switch to open my House door.

This House Door also has motor lock gear. And when you open this door with fingerprint

or with fibaro relay (zipato), door will be auto. opened for about 5-10cm....

Please see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiJiDGYQTKM

A confirm to open a door or PIN code would be great.

Regards.

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Oh I see. We'll do something about that in the new app.

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try creating an alarm zone that activates a virtual switch (the door lock) when disarmed. This way you will have to enter a pin every time.

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Hi Filip


Everything is now sorted by name like it is on web by default


except the scenes!

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You're right, it will be fixed in 2.2.1.

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Fixed and available now on TestFlight. Let me if you want access to join TestFlight.

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it works fine. Thank you!

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Hello, the update of the app is more stable. But if i choose German (i am from germany) the hole status is in englisch like „motion / no motion“ - but in Version 2.1 it was „Bewegung / keine Bewegung“ so the locolazition seems not to work right ??? Please give me a feedback. Thx Michael

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I'm sorry, no idea how or why that happened since I didn't touch anything related to localization. I'll see if it's something that can be fixed quickly. Unfortunately, localization is handled very badly in My Zipato and we're completely replacing that system in the new app so I can't invest too much time in it now.

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Hi Thanks for your reply - even if you won´t have time for the old app. Please consider to check this within the new app !


Thx Michael

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We'll definitely have everything localized properly in the new app. And there will be a beta test so if you notice anything that isn't localized or is localized wrong there will be time to report and fix it.

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Hello - hope it will also look like the fibaro app, as i would like to use a iPad on the wall for graphical controlling of all modules (in my home now about 36 zwave devices).

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I really hope it will look much better!

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I'll be using at least one, if not two, in wall iPads, so I'm hoping it's beautiful as well.

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I honestly don't think it's hard to make a better looking app than that :)

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My Zipato 2.1.1 was released on Friday with fixes for red background on some devices and for layout breaking before first load when app is launched, but looks like that update introduced a new bug where rooms aren't visible. There is also another known bug in 2.2/2.2.1 where cameras take a really long time to load so there will be another update (2.2.2) this week. If anyone has a problem with their cameras, let me know and I will add you to TestFlight so you get access to a fixed build that will probably be up today or tomorrow (those that were testing 2.2.1 will automatically receive it).

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I have stopped using camera because it takes so much power from Zipabox!


But I have another problem with both the app and the web UI. And that is Piliphs Hue RGB light that is not possible to control.


The strange things is that rule creator can control them?

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I don't know about web, but My Zipato app has zero support for Hue. It will be done in new app.

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I hope you think one more step when integrating philips hue in the new App.


Another idea would be good in the new app is for "direct" connection to the Philips Hue Bridge when connected to your local wifi network. I do not know if you seen my youtube clip when I control my Philips Hue bedroom lamp through an app.


It's super fast update frequency between my finger and the actual brightness of the lamp.

Therefore iOS app must be directly connected to Philips Hue bring for best performance.


You should be able to program the app to know if you are connected to your local network and then app behaves better or faster.


The functionality of the app and Zipabox, to know who is connected to the local network should then be possible to expand indefinitely.


For example, run certain rules depending on whose phone that connects to your home network.


For example, turn off lights when mum and dad and children's phone is not connected to wifi. Or turn some lights when Dad comes home at a certain time at night.


This feature I think is very important for the app. Perhaps you have already thought of this?

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Our box already talks to Hue directly over local network. Doing the same thing from iOS (and obviously we'd have to do it from Android then as well) would require different developer doing the same thing again on different platform and that can't possibly turn out good. Fixing every bug would require at least three times as much work. And it would be unfair to only do it for Hue, we'd have to do it for other systems too, and that is simply not viable.


However, both new iOS and Android apps will talk to the box automatically over local network whenever possible, so that should somewhat improve performance of controlling both Hue and any other device when you're at home because there will be one less step between the app and device you are controlling.

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Have you used Hue? Otherwise see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha-ImAp0jg0


This explane it all.

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Hi Filip, is it possible to include the Slovak language in the latest release? Ut was translated nearly 6 months ago, but still not included in the latest iOS app

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You're right, Slovak is 100% translated, but looks like someone forgot to include it in My Zipato. Will be in next build :)

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Thx

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Looks like no update is required for that, if you restart the app now, it should pull Slovak from our server. Note that if you have for example device browser open, it will not automatically update to new language after selecting it and closing menu, but if you tap device browser from menu again, it will.

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You are right. It works. Thx

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My Zipato 2.2.2 is now available on TestFlight with fixes for cameras, rooms and languages. I'm submitting the same build to App Store so it should be there in a few days as well.

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Thank you!


Plugin devices seems to miss its icon?

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Yep, new build is already up, but still processing. Should be visible soon.

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I like this level of activity for the iOS app. Have missed it a while... :-)

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Can't more than agree! Fantastic Filip!

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My Zipato 2.2.2 with fixes for cameras, rooms and latest translation files has been approved by Apple and you should see it in your updates soon.

Thanks to all the testers once again and I hope nothing big broke with this update so that I can focus on the new app properly now. These two weeks since I wrote the first post have been a bit crazy, I spent much more time cleaning up the mess in old app than I intended to so I didn't have as much time to work on the new app. Still I hope taking a little time to work on the old app has convinced our community that something is going on since we're still not ready to show you the new app. And I know it has given me great perspective into past mistakes that I want to avoid in the new app.

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filip thanks to recent changes. it is nice to see that finally something is happening by Zipato.

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Keep up the good work

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Good morning!


Thank you for your information about the status of your work. Great.

I found out, that HUE RGB lamps are handled as normal bulbs, but not as RGB Bulbs. Colors cannot be changend. Just dimming.


Andreas

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Good morning :) Yes, there is some basic control for any device that is recognized as light (could be on/off switch or dimmer depending on setup), but there is zero specific support for Hue yet so you won't be able to control them fully.

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Will be in the future in new App?

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Yes, definitely, that's near the top of my list because I use Hue myself ;)

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Have you tried the new Hue app Filip? What do you think? Any inspiration or ides for the new Zipato app!

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My customer is saying that the IOS app is not working for him. He has 5s and also ipad but the app crashes on start. He even tried to remove and reinstall but no luck. Obviously I asked if he has installed the latest update, and he did but still no good. Do you have any idea how this can be solved?

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Does he has a ZipaTile? I have the same issue and Zipato told me, that ZipaTile will be supported with the next update (2.2), which we all hope will hit the App Store next week :)

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Actually customer has installed version 2.2.2 Which version were you referring to as surely 2.2 was older version.

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Yes, he has zipatile. Actually when he was removing the back panel from the front, the display broke. He says that the display is too sensitive as any standard screen (like tablet) wouldn't broke so easily..

So I need to get that replaced...

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Uff, that's not fun though. I had no problems to remove the back panel. The display or at least the plate on top is sensitive, you're right. I made some little scratches in it when I put it on the back side to slide off the back panel.

But now when it's at the wall I don't see too much of it ;)

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We found a bug with old app (My Zipato) that can make it crash when connected to some ZipaTiles (it depends on some alarm configurations so we managed to miss it in internal testing until now). A fix has been uploaded to Apple and we asked for expedited review so hopefully update will be up on the App Store before we can even get it on TestFlight (TestFlight also has a mini review for each new version that usually takes 24-48 hours which is on average longer than expedited App Store review times).

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We've been denied expedited App Store review due to their volume. Let's hope regular review goes fast. In the meantime, I've submitted the build to TestFlight too, so if that gets approved before App Store version, I'll let you know so anyone affected can get the fix asap.

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I try again...... ???? Have you tried the new Hue app Filip? What do you think? Any inspiration or ides for the new Zipato app!

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Good Morning!


If I open a thermostat values are not set. I then go back to the list and call the same thermostat again. Now all data are showed up. It works but you have to select a thermostat twice.

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Thermostat needs a bit longer to load than other devices, but it should update UI automatically. Is this new in 2.2.3 or have you seen it before?


Anyway, I already spent too much time on the old app at the expense of new app's progress so I think you will have to live with that for a few more weeks until we have a new app beta ready. I'm sorry, but I need to stop working on the old app some time if you ever want to see new one :)

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That is ok for me. Just for your information.

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Thank you :)

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A small update for My Zipato is up on the App Store. It includes search feature for boxes (by name or serial) and adds some new device icons (including accelerometer, so if you have a ZipaTile its accelerometer will no longer show up as a question mark icon).

New app development is going well and unless there are some big unplanned changes I think we could start with beta buy the end of this month.

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When could you publish any Photos from the new app? Or will you be able to do that? I think everyone is very curios, of how it will look?


Thanks in advance.

Jacob

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Hi Jacob,


First to introduce myself. My name is Branislav and I'm working in Zipato as Project Manager for the last 10 months. I publish posts occasionally, but I'm reading all topics on a daily basis.


We appreciate your enthusiasm about Zipato and Zipato's new iOS app development, and we are happy that you share our success and achievements like it's your own.

When speaking about our new iOS app, one who seeks answers should sometimes start from beginning. There you can find this:

What we still need to do before we can show you this new version:

• Finalize designs....

• Implement some more basic functionality....

What I'm trying to say is - since Filip joined Zipato and this Community, he proved himself as a person on which people can rely on. He has been very active, updating all members about the status of new app development, so as fixing bugs and adding new features in the old app. If he didn't publish any photos by now, this just means that he is not ready to share this new version for now - because he is still working on design and implementation. Considering his devotion and responsibility, be sure that photos will be here when the time is right.

Until then, write about your issues and bugs on Community, send him emails. He is always here to help.

But please don't insist on questions about the new application. It won't speed things up, and the answers are already there, or will appear in the upcoming weeks.

Thank you for understanding.

Branislav

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Hi Jacob, it surely will look similar to Android version...So I dont think there is need to see pictures ASAP. You already know how that looks like...

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Thank you for answering.


And sorry for being impatient.

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We decided to take advantage of short App Store Review times lately (1-2 days at the moment) and submitted another small My Zipato update to App Store that will probably be up over the weekend. Device adding screen got some love, namely there is no more missing icons, brands are always sorted alphabetically instead of randomly and trying to add a device to a network you don't have on your controller will now show a helpful message instead of doing absolutely nothing :) (help translating those new alert messages is welcome at http://translate.zipato.com/)

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Trying to translate. Is this correct: Server url was validated.

Please login again.


Should it not be: Server url was invalidated. Please login again.

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Current version is actually correct. It's a very specific message that most users should never see.

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What does validated mean in this case? According to Google translate this is some synonyms: confirm, acknowledge, corroborate, validate, substantiate, affirm


Does this mean that the you are connected to the server or not?


If the server url is ok why do you have to log in again?


Any way in this case I will add a new translation.

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As I said, it's an edge case that you don't have to worry about. If you want to translate something, start with things you see all the time in the app.

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REMOTE?


REMOTE as in REMOTE CONTROL or REMOTE ACCESS?

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Doesn't look like this one is used anywhere in the app.

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It is in the translation page?


When will you update the translation so I/we van see what is left to translate?


Best regards!


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We won't update it since that string is no longer used in the app.

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Ok


And: When will you update the translation so I/we can see what is left to translate?

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I approved all pending translations that were in right format and fixed some that weren't. If you kill the app and restart it, it will try to pull new translations, and they will be included in the next update.

Some things to keep in mind if you still want to help with translation:

• Please try to keep an eye on "%@", it can't have space between % and @ or be changed in any other way or it won't work

• Try to keep string capitalization the same if it makes sense (if it starts with capital letter or is all caps, keep it like that).

• "\n" means new line, so try to keep it at approximately the same spot in the string or remove it. There were a few translations where just "\" was kept in the middle of string.

• If you add new translations for untranslated strings, I will now regularly approve them automatically, but if you submit a better translation for a string that is already translated, please email me original English string or id (number in the first column of table) because otherwise I'd have to manually go through all strings to find possible better translations.

• Most translations can be reused for new app so the sooner you start, the better :)

Thanks everyone that contributed!

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Bigg thank you for the fst updates Filip!


Even thow most Swedish people understand English really good it is still fun to se the app in your native language.


And on that subject I want to switch to Swedish and ask my fellow countrymen.


Jag kör på med svenska översättningar som jag tycker passar men det är en del jag fastnar på:


Hur översätter man Device Browser?


Min översättning blev Enhetshanterare. Men det är inte riktigt bra. Eftersom det blir två Enhetshanterare efter varandra. Jag provade med lite synonymer och det som jag tycker är närmast är: "Enhets Läsare" men det låter inte riktigt bra. Vad tycker ni?


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For the Swedish translation, may I suggest the following regarding Device Browser/Manager:


Device Browser: Visa enheter


Devuce Manager: Hantera enheter


This is what I use when doing other technical translations...


Br

Torbjörn Hall

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Device Manager in the app this is really just a view of the devices - you can't manage anything really, my suggestion based on that would be to call it something like "Enhetsgranskare" (Device Reviewer)

Device Browser is actually where you use the devices, either view the temp/lux/state or turn devices on/off/arm/disarm, hence I suggest "Enhetshanterare" (Device Manager) but since that will mix it up with the English copy I suggest "Använd Enheter" (Use Devices) or such.

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Perfect will surgest that. But what do you think of my other suggestion: Enhets Utforskare close to english original?


And some other things to improve:


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I surgester the Alarm names but I am not happy of my one translation.... what is better.

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I know Device Manager is useless in current app, but we'll keep that naming scheme for now because it matches web, Android and upcoming new iOS app.

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I have done what I can with the translations but the Alarm texts I struggle with. And the lower texts can't be changed because it is hidden. Pleas help with what is left with the iOS app.


Best regards Jacob

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You can use filter above table to only show untranslated strings, then they should fit on your screen and not be hidden. You can also click any column title to sort by that column to work around that layout bug where some stuff gets cut off at bottom.

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Translated the latest, and want to ask you if you could change the one I have put picture of under her:


And also change those that I voted for another persons bettor suggestion. think it had to do with alarm.

Alarm events should probably be "Larm händelser"

Device Browser should probably be "Enhetsläsare" or "Utforskare" the last one like in Windows

Generic OnOff to "Generisk OnOff"

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Sorry for the unconvincing. Will probobly be more things to think twice about.

Best regards Jacob W

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For the Swedish translation, may I suggest the following regarding Device Browser/Manager:


Device Browser: Visa enheter


Devuce Manager: Hantera enheter


This is what I use when doing other technical translations...


Br

Torbjörn Hall

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I am thinking of Windows.


And there we have Enhetshanterare and Utforskare and I think that is quiet close. Device Browser is a noun, right? You translation is Verb and Noun. If we translate it directly it is.


Device Browser: Show Devices

Device Manager: Manage Devices


IMO the all known Windows terms is better. But submit it to translations and lets se what others think.


Device Browser: Utforskare

Device Manager: Enhetshanterare


But there is other words that is much more problematic.


Example: Generic OnOff

Dose Generisk PåAv Sounds good?

Or my suggestion that was very bad: Vanlig OnOff according to me it should be "AvPå" or "Brytare"


Or "Generisk Mätare" should be only "Mätare"


But lets make the best translation we can. And I can email Filip with what we agree upon.

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Can you also add back "shake" for scene like it was before. What planes is it with the new app when you shake your phone? Is there any plans for using this?

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I wasn't even aware there was shake gesture in the iOS app because source code I received from last developer has no mention of it. I can add it back in next update, but no plans for it in the new app at the moment since we're 99% sure we'll go with tab bar so scenes will always be a tap away.


Btw I updated translations. We're gonna be removing a lot of unused translations from database today or tomorrow so take a break while that happens so you don't waste time on unused strings :)

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Fantastic! Really exiting! New energy to home automation.

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Version 2.2.7 with shake to show scenes (and any translations updated since yesterday) has been submitted to App Store. Last few versions took about a day so I expect this one to be available tomorrow as well.

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Once again amazing speed!

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I posted this in another thread but it seems better to post the question in this thread. Sorry for the double posting...


Is there any plans for norwegian language for mobile app (iOS). I see there is norwegian on the web app but not fully translated. Is there a place I can contribute with translation?

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Norwegian translation was started a long time ago, but is only at 18.75%. Generally at least login, main menu and device browser should be translated in order to make a translation active within the app. When you're done translating, or when you think you translated a big part of app, let me know and I will check and approve your translations and if it meets requirements I listed above, it will be included in the app.

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I did some more translating to norwegian today. I have one problem. The last 3-4 lines at the page is impossible to translate due to the page gets cut off and I can't press the update button. Tried in Safari and Chrome browser...


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Yes it is there: http://translate.zipato.com/


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Cool. Thanks! I did some today. I will let you know when I'm done :)

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Hey Thomas, thanks you! To translate the last few strings that get cut off, try clicking on columns at the top of the page to sort by that column. Alternatively, when you translate everything else and I approve it, you can use filter to only show those few untranslated strings :)

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Thanks! I'm finished with the translation :) There are two translations you approved that I changed. I added new ones and gave them 5 stars. If you could change them it would be great!

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I think I got them all, let me know if I missed something, and preferably give me list of original translations (or IDs) because I can't see votes until I click on each and every translation manually :) Great job, thanks once again! We'll add Norwegian to list of languages today.

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My Zipato 2.2.9 with some more translation-related fixes (mostly fixing places where translations weren't used or where they didn't fit) has been submitted to App Store.

Looking back at past 2-3 weeks, new app development speed was a bit underwhelming mostly because of three things:

1) there was one unexpected new feature that took a lot of time, but it's mostly done now so overall I'm not that far behind,

2) community did a really great job updating translations (Norwegian was translated from ~18% to full in two days by a single customer!) so I spent quite some time just going through all those and approving them, adding them to app and fixing related bugs as we discovered them (we'll reuse most of these translations in new app so it wasn't a complete waste of time),

3) there were a few more nasty bugs in old app like inability to add 433Mhz devices that were hard to ignore.

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Before someone reads the news that Apple is now allowing iOS apps to be interacted with via Siri and gets excited, just wanted to clarify that it's only available to a few certain types of apps and home automation is not one of those types since that would conflict with HomeKit. There is a lot of new features coming this fall and we'll definitely look into using all that make sense, but unfortunately as it is now, no direct Siri support.

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Hi Filip,


So proactive....thanks for that....we where all hoping....I love Apple, but this come on....how about you reconsider the Zipabox HomeKit Module...voila....you are on HomeKit and Siri is an enabled for Zipato...8)

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There's much more to it than simply building a module that we can't really talk about, I'm sorry :(

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I agree with Jesper that will be a deal breaker when choosing home automation in future. Some of the bigest players in Sweden does not have home kit. But Zipato could. Neeo does not have planes for home kit. Fibaro was on the WWDC event pictures so they will defiantly support home kit.

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Since the new version is taking longer than I could imagine, I thought it would be nice to invest a day or two to try and fix the biggest issue with current app which is lack of iPad support. I already have an experimental version that only supports landscape on iPad ready to test (and will probably keep it landscape-only until new app is released).

So, I need a few testers with an iPad (any model with iOS 8.0 or later) and lots of spare time this weekend that are willing to try out this experimental iPad support with a lot of attention and provide detailed feedback. If you fit that description, please comment here. If we don't discover any major bugs that can't be fixed within a day or two, we will release a universal version of the current app next week.

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I can test it

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I can test it ;-)

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I can test it, tell me how...

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Same for me. I have a newer iPad

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i have ipad air ... what du you need ???

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started te test, all main function work, the layout is not very beautiful but it works, I try to stress the system so we can check other issue, If you want I have some screen shot that I can share

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The point of this update (and we're still not sure if we will release it) would be to just have something a bit better for iPad than we currently have, to make the wait a bit easier for iPad users until new version is out.

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Hi Filip - i have a Ipad Air 2 and a Ipad Pro for Testing. And Iphone 6S and Acer Iconia 10 Android 5.1


Regards

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there is a version for the Apple Watch

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There is no version for Apple Watch. This is just a small update of the old app, new one that includes Watch app is still not ready to test.


BTW invites were sent to everyone that requested, check your email if you are a new tester or TestFlight app if you tested some of previous versions.

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Filip i cannot see my invite in testflight anymore. Im i taken away from the list?

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We were done with beta testing the old app and all testers were removed. This was just an unplanned idea that I wanted a few volunteers with iPads to test to help us decide if we're gonna release it or not. Still not sure at the moment.

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hi i have an iPhone 3GS, 4, 5, 6, iPad mini 2 and an Apple Watch. would offer me happy as a tester. Great interest may stand in the Apple Watch. On all devices the normal IOS software are on it and my additional devices beta firmwares

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how can I be betatester

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Check your email for TestFlight invite. We're only looking for iPad-related feedback at the moment so please focus on that and use the feedback option within TestFlight app if you have something to report. For iPhones, this version is the same as the one on App Store, so there is no need to install it over that.

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Hi Filip, I would very much like to be a beta tester on the iPad version.

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The screen of the iPad is too big for only a few informations and/or small buttons (see pictures). I expect a "smarter" view like the example from FHEM with TableUI. I will not change for each action the complete menu.

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Filip,

I'm am a manager in a telecommunications operator; we also develop apps, and I personally carry both iPhone, iPad, Samsung S7 and Samsung TAB (and at times also others) which we need to use to test our own stuff.

I'd be happy to test your stuff and give u feedback.

Brgds Robert

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I have a iPad Pro 12.9" would like to test

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iPad retina here. Would like to betatest.

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Ipad air first gen. retina screen.


i also want to apply for beta testing.

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No news about the new app?


Best regards Jacob!

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I was sick for past two weeks so there aren't any news.


We won't be taking any new testers for iPad support in old app at this time. Bugs that were reported will be fixed today and tomorrow and we'll probably submit it to App Store then.

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I hope I still be in the test group for the new app that is what I am exited about! I still have some language issues on the iPhone but I will send them in mail when i get the time.

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As everyone following this thread already know (and for those that don't, I suggest reading the first post before this one), I joined Zipato and started the development of new iOS app from scratch about 3 months ago. At that time the goal was basically to replace the current app with a new one made from scratch with pretty much same functionality, but more polished and solid, then continue improving that with new features. My personal goal at the time based on that plan was to have a beta within two months, but as I said in the first post in this thread, I didn't want to make any date-related promises. Mostly because software development almost never goes according to initial plan. Features are added and removed, priorities are shifted, people get sick etc.

Development of the new app started at a really good pace and we had internal alpha builds with most basic functionality within 2 weeks. First slowdowns occurred about a month and a half in when we updated the old app which caused some new bugs as well as bringing more attention to older bugs. I'll just quote myself from back then:


  1. I spent much more time cleaning up the mess in old app than I intended to so I didn't have as much time to work on the new app. Still I hope taking a little time to work on the old app has convinced our community that something is going on since we're still not ready to show you the new app. And I know it has given me great perspective into past mistakes that I want to avoid in the new app.

After that first update I continued investing approximately 10-12 hours a week in old app in parallel with new app and overall there were 12 updates, which is exactly as many updates in 3 months as Zipato iOS apps had in their lifetime! Granted, these were mostly smaller updates, but it's a pace we're planning to keep with the old app until new one is released, and then continue with the new one once that is released as well. Also, since new app is much better built, those updates should be more about adding features and polishing stuff then just mostly fixing bugs.

A few weeks ago we had quite a major priority shift for the new app where we decided it needed to be much more powerful than just a remote control, so all efforts were focused on creating a great new native device manager. At that moment I realized it will take at least another month or two for new app to be ready, so I invested some time in bringing iPad support to old app to make the wait easier. That update is probably gonna go out some time this week out now. It's nowhere near a perfect solution for iPad, but it's much better than just a stretched-out iPhone app.

The end result of all this is gonna be an initial release of new app that is way more powerful than originally planned and that includes most of web app's features (most notable one missing is rule creator, but that will be added later too). We think you're going to love it and that it will be worth the wait. Still no date-related promises, but I hope we'll slowly start with TestFlight soon™. More info about that when the time comes. Thanks for your patience and all the feedback so far.

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Absolutely amazing news. An update like this really give me hope for Zipato. I never thought you would be able to make rules on iOS. I am really excited and keep up the good work.


I have noticed that when I login in to my.zipato on a iOS device the UI looks totally different from how it looked and actually is useful.


Thanks Filip!


Best regards Jacob!

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Hi Flip. The new update seems to be missing the History portion of the alarm, lighting, battery backup, etc. I am no longer able to swipe and see when the state of the sensor / switch etc was changed.


Thanks!

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Interesting. No idea how that happened, but will be fixed this week.

Edit: unable to reproduce, sent you email for more info. If anyone else has this problem, please let me know.

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Hello Filip,


for me same issue.

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Ok, I think I found the issue and will be submitting a build shortly after some more testing.

Edit: submitted, will probably be out some time tomorrow.

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Hello Filip, with the .57 build on my iPhone my shutters show now the opposite position = 100 closed is in reality open and 0 = open ist in reality closed. In the web browser everything is ok ?


Can you fix it ?

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Reverse it in the web UI instead!


I did that.


100% should be closed.


I had yo change rules and scenes, but definitely worth it!


Now my finger follow the direction of the blind.

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I can do this - but then the WEB UI show´s it WRONG ??? ... Bevor the .57 everything was ok!

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Hi Filip! The latest app seems to miss % when moving the blinds slider? You only know what % you have set it too when you release your finger from the screen. I don't think it was like this before?


And if it is not to hard could you animate the movement of the blind when it travels to the set position?


If this is possible don't forget that the owner can set the time it take for the blind to go upp and down in my case 16,5 seconds down and 21,5 seconds up. That means they the animation should follow that settings. 8,25 seconds to 50% and so on? Don't know how it works with z-wave blinds but it would be a nice feature.


Best regards Jacob!

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I was told by support that UI in blinds control was upside down so I flipped it. I guess we'll have to consider reverting that change. I'll investigate this some more and let you know what I come up with.

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And the missing %?

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After further investigation, it appears the recent update of My Zipato (2.3.1) caused more issues with shutters than it solved, so we will be releasing another update shortly that reverses all the changes from 2.3.1. We will leave it like it was for now, and we'll focus more on getting shutters done properly for the new app. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

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2.3.2 has now been submitted to App Store Review. It should be exactly the same as version 2.3, minus that bug where value history was missing.

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Wow, first time over a year that I see this kind of information shared with the customers. Keeping us informed shows us you guys care and work on fixing stuff. I hope Zipato would inform us they way you have done for all the topics, not just the IOS app. Keep up the good work!

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Bumping this thread to see if we can get a status update on the new app =)


As Alberto previously stated we really do appreciate the sharing of information, especially the way you do it!

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Can we at least see some pictures?


No beta test jet?

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Hello all.

I´m starting to have problem with the app on all family members Iphone 6 it is the newest softwares and IOS updates.

There is no responce in the app.

No way of running scenes.

I have reset the box a few times thinking it was from there, but no luck...


Anybody have any idee´s ???

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Works for me Mats, but I have Iphone 6 S.


Sounds a little like a network problem, or wifi problem


Does your Wifi work?

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I also confirm the app is working on my 6S Plus......

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OK.

I have working WiFi in the house.

And a ethernet cable to the box.

So no problem there.

Tried via the webbrowser now and there is problem running scenes there to ????

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Hello Mats,


I had similar problems 2 weeks ago, No scenes could be run. No rules executed...but all devices could be handled and updated normally. This happend soon after (not immediatly) after upgrading to 1.0.22.

I have gone back to 1.0.17 but I had to restart the box at least 3 times after the old FW was loaded and the Everything was back to nomal again...


Do your rules execute at all??


Best reagrds

Torbjorn

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No no rules at all.

How do you revert to old firmware??

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But i do have 1.0.17 and still that problem...

Will try to restart again...

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Seem to be working now after 3 reboots

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Hehe, why should it take 3 reboots..???

Could Zipato Support maybe comment on this ??

And maybe learn something...:-))

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"How do you revert to old firmware??"

1.0.17 seems to be the current default FW ( In Swedish "Officiell"). If you select "Earlier" (Tidigare) you will be getting 0.9xxxx.


Did you try to run newest Beta FW before your problem started ?

Have you maybe tried the Cluster option ? I did this before it was supported and I suspect it has something to do with the problem that later hit me...


Br

Torbjorn

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If you look at the zipabox, is the led lit or is it blinking?


If blinking it indicates that the zipabox has lost its connection to the zipato cloud service and that could result in symptoms limilar to yours.

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Filip-


Thank you for the recent updates and info on the iOS app, they are much appreciated. Since this is one of the more active threads with input from Zipato devs, could you give us an update on the backup/restore functions for Zipabox settings? This is the one feature that has prevented me from investing further in your technology as my initial Zipabox failed requiring me to re-input all my settings -something I woud not want to do with a large number of devices and rules.


Regards,

Tim

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It was one month sens Filip was posting anything. Is he on vacation or back from vacation? Could someone at Zipato tell us. We ar all eagerly waiting for the new IOs app or at least Test flight and beta testing of the new app.


Or could someone tell us when or if, he will be back?

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It was a long time sense we heard from Filip Is there any development on the iOS app or have he Quite? Or is he just on vacation? It was one month ago he last posted her?


Please Zipato

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agreed, would be nice to see an ios app that is the replica of the android app. Many people ask this off me as one has and android device, the other an apple and they want commonality over devices. I need to point them to the DomoMea app on android.

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iOS10 will be released very soon. Is the current App ready for it or should I advise my customers not to update until further notice?

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iOS10 is released, and the Zipato app seems to be working fine, both on iPhone and iPad.

Brgds, Robert

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Hope they will add geolocation to the new app...

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Filip,

I have a Cluster running on the Testsystem of Zipato. Neither my iPad nor my iPhone is able to connect with my normal credentials to the Server URL of the testsystem. The Server is validated but when I try to Login again I get the message unable to Login as the Format of the data is wrong.

The ZipaTile with Android was able to change the Server URL and the Login worked fine

Any idea?

Regards Bernd

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good morning to all


I have a zipatile and I control the audio through global cache in android Interfas IR commands look good but in IOS Interfas not look so please look what happens.

Attached image global cache Interfas in IOS

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With Global Cache do you have? Any problem to get it to work with zipabox?

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Hi Filip,


any update on your progress reagrding the new Zipato App?

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He visited the forum 2 month ago???????


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True Jacob. At least a sentence.

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Here is the linkedin profile from Filip and you see, that he isn't longer part of the zipato team.

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We are currently working on iOS application with an external development company.

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Could this info not have come earlier?


In that case maybe I can get som requests? I realy like the functionality of the Insteon App

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And please at least after al this month share one picture with a couple of dimmer devices?

You can't keep us waiting one yer for a new app and not come up with anything.

In my view it is really a big problem to not have the expertise in house to beagle to fix problems fast and continue development of the app in hose, but maybe it will be different with Zipato.


All other home automation Companys have this expertise in house.


But I may be wrong.


Sad news!

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agreed jacob, no proper ios app is very disappointing. So many function and features missing on ios compared to Android.


I also like the idea of being able to use a scheduler from the app. This would be so convenient for many reasons, rather than having to login to web control center to set a schedule up. Also hating the dimmimg and blinds control in android.

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How far away is the new app?

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Very keen on this. It seems the developer has gone and development has completely stalled with no delivery date on the horizon at all. Perhaps Sebastian can shed some lighton the current state of Affairs.

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The iOS app is not important any more, since the business strategy for Zipato now is Zipatile focused.

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I own a zipatile and I control it through the iphone app when I'm not at home, so I disagree that it's not important. I monitor temperature, cameras, status of blinds, lights, the alarm system etc remotely.

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It would really be good if Zipato was finally updating the iOS app. As the current apps really has too many flaws to be used with pleasure (just one minor example: the time stamp says 1970!) I usually went to use the web application on my iPhone 7 Plus.


This has stopped working for me at least (the application loads forever with getting to the next screen). Now I am stuck with this app. Frustrating! Zipato, please move!!!

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Agree. After Philip left if I read it right, Zipato was using external company but this now takes ages...nearly a year if not even more. Surely this cannot take so long...

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Yea. Just thought I would give the zipato zipabox a try as I have had all sorts of stability issues with smartthings. The current app here is absolutely terrible. I hope there is an update sometime soon.

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An update on this would be great.

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An update would be awesome.

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An update would be awesome

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we have all been waiting for this update. I have no idea what could possibly take this long. The android version was officially released almost one year ago. It is embarrassing to show clients 2 totally different looking apps.

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In the past few weeks there have been 4 very minor updates to the app. That’s more then in the entire past year. I hope that this signals renewed focus and interest from the Zipato team on iOS users. It would be fantastic if they could give us an update on their plans.

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Hello yes updates but they are a mess!! My Android APP on my TAB doesn´t work anymore and my IOS App crashes on my iPhone if the alarm partition is active and i try to acsess/disarm it!!! VERY BAD!!!

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same to me - App crashes when I try to access the alarm partition

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New Zipato app for iOS is available for download on App Store. Please check it.

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Where is the new iOS app? All I see is an update of the old one...

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Yes. The 2.4.8 release with bug fixes. No traces about the brand new app.

I discovered this thread only few days ago, because I was resigned that the iOS app doesn't have high priority and we (iOS users) can only use the app as is or completely change the controller (peraphs not only Fibaro but Vera too have an app better than Zipato :-( ). I read in a couple of hours all the post in this thread and in few minutes I change my state from happiness (reading the first posts) to frustration again with the last posts.

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Yeah. I don't understand why they cannot comment more thoroughly, or at least state "We are working on a new app, but we cannot say when it will be released. As soon as we have more information, we will inform you". Now its just dead quiet. I'm starting to wonder if they've given up. If so, I need to change controler too.

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Please Filip! Give us an update and release some TestFlights soon... :)

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Filip can no longer provides any news since he no longer works for Zipato.

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I know this isn't a solution for most, as its not plug and play type app, but TheHomeRemote now supports Zipato controllers. Here you can create your own app with the designer tool, even add unsupported products by Zipato, and change the configuration to suit IOS, android and Windows. It does take some getting used to, but the end result is far better. For example, full Sonos support and control. But it is also cloud connected, not local connection.

As for waiting for Zipato to develop the IOS app, who knows. I dont see how hard it would be to just change the graphics on the old app to mimic the new android one (shouldn't say new as its been around for a long time now) At least that would be a start.

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Is there any news on this?

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Bump!

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In 2-3 years we will have an update...

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Still no news on the new ios app. Will it ever be released?

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Yes. When ?

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oh but we got an new UI for the Zipatile.........................again.........................

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Is it any good?

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i read your post this post gives a very better idea on ios App development.

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Has this now officially been abandoned?

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Well, Q2 2018 they said...

Two Days left I say...

Maybe Ill buy an Athom Homey on monday instead...

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Didn't know about Homey until now.

Looks like a very good and smart system.

Onle Down-Side: no display afaik? (except smartphone)

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Would be nice if they would publish the milestones and progress on a weekly basis for all of the features etc.

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Zipato, has the plans changed or are you still expecting to update the IOS app?

I am sure a lot of your users are waiting for the VERY MUCH NEEDED redesign of the app.

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yup - give us a modern design and maybe be able to choose a photo of my OWN HOME instead of a eastern european living room in the app...

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It’s a lot of time that we wait for some changes but nothing happen. I stared to think that is necessary to change system, homey seems a good alternative at my zipabox. I use zipabox since 2014 but now I think that there is some problem inside Zipato because nothing change, we need an iOS app adeguate for this system. I’m sorry for this but it’s the real situation.

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same for me. I have different new problems. Individual devices have suddenly disappeared and sometimes very slow reactions.

After 4 years it's time for a new solution.

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Hello Michele,


Didi you digged into alternatives ? and did you migrate to a new system ?

I am curious on migration experiences...

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We are still working on the new mobile apps for both Android and iOS. Unfortunately, we won't be able to publish them in Q2 as expected, but we are quite confident that we will publish them in Q3.

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hearing the quarter by quarter delay since 2 years. sebastian - any committment from your side on the release date would help. people are asking me for recommendations; since most of my peer group uses ios, i cannot recommend zipato with a clear mind. seems you have issues that are not easy to fix / release the version. ... time to change the centre to fibaro ?

would appreciate a honest response and timeline.


thanks a lot, rakesh

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If you think Fibaro is better product for you or your customers, i don't see the reason why do you ask me for the advise. I don't know anything about Fibaro nor what do you or your customers need. I am happy with Zipato and I certainly don't need any "Fibaro" :-)

Anyway, once we publish the app, it will be easy to evaluate the quality and compare it with other apps and systems.

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Q3 of 2025?? It’s been years now it’s being devolopped. I undersdand that it needs time but so much is ridiculous...

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Hello, Q3 is 3 months long more with summer time too. Do you have a real go-live date target? even not respected it's better to wait until end of Sept without feedbacks

thank you, Stefano

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It’s probably ready when pigs can fly

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I believe you can let us know.

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well sebastian - asking for advise as i was advised to buy zipato. in general a very good product with a crappy ios app. since you are pushing the new app constantly i am asking whether its worth waiting or to look for alternatives. also yr comment on q3 is vague. so - geniune question - when will the ios app be released ?


thanks a lot, rakesh

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Our new mobile app is the same for both iOS and Android, and it's practically replacing the complete web app so it's a quite complex project. Our plan is to release beta before exhibitions in September.

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Interesting - so you are switching over from developing a native iOS-app (+native Android + Webbapp) to cross-platform development?

Are you going for Xamarin or maybe React Native? I am myself in the mobile app industry and try to stay shy of the cross-platform development BUT for a service like Zipato (and of course with the fact that nothing has come out on iOS native in a long while) I think going for cross-platform will be of HUGE benefit for us users and I can't wait!!

please share more details if possible - it will just do you guys good to have us Ambassadors of Zipato on your side as friends and colleagues ask us what home automation system to choose from. It is like the employee-test score of referrals of the company you work for - if we don't feel safe recommend you to a friend - you will be in trouble.

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Yes, our mobile apps are based on React Native.

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Sounds great for the future and especially for us Apple-locked-in users! All we need now then is a HomeKit-bridge module ;-)

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Agreed, Zipato should talk to these guys and get there system integrated here for all Google, Alexa and Homekit integration. https://www.skaro.com.au/

If they were smart they could probably even install this on a micro sd card and have it operational on the Zipatile itself.

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Stupid question maybe, but is there any chance that the new iOS app will enable offline local connection? So you can use the app also if internet is not available for the moment.

AFAIK this has been available in the past (some years ago) but it is not currently available in the iOS app?

Thanks!

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Any news about the beta before exhibitions in September?

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The IFA in Berlin will start on the 31st of August. That is still a few days and the Q3 still takes 36 days! ;-)

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I understand the new version should come soon (end of Q3 according to a post from Sebastian in this discussion thread)...

Has anyone on this forum being involved in a Beta program ? is there any beta program running ?

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Hi Olivier,

Beta isn´t Running yet.


regards Helle

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News on Facebook: Zipato @IFA2018 showing new Zipatile2, Zipabox2 and the new mobile app for iOS and Android

Unfortunately without additional information. But there is hope...

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Publishing of the new app is currently planned for end of October

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and another UI for the Zipatile!!!

I hope this really does span all OS versions. It does look a nice clean interface. Hopefully it adds more functionality like customised layouts and widgets. Bring on end of October.

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I hope in October 2018 and not 2019;-)

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Any News about app, Zipato-team?

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An update on the status of the iOS app would be highly appreciated. The current one doesn’t look nice on iPhone X, Xs screens either.

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I gave up hope ....

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it's so useful that you shared that with us. Thank you.

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Then finally inform your customers a little bit more! That would be more useful for us ...

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There are so many home automation apps on the market and we don't want to make just another one. We are working on the app which can really provide solid smart home experience and this is not easy. App should work in both remote and local mode seamlessly. It should provide option to control multizone temperature (not only stupid "smart" thermostat), useful security system (not just arm/disarm few sensors), ip video iintercom, ip video monitoring system with reliable cloud network video recorder, basic rule management with geolocation, ability to manage devices based on multiple networks, good and intuitive design with customization options, multi language support and so on... If that would be easy, everybody would have it already. We are very close, working hard for 2 years already and we will come out with beta soon. Our goal is to publish beta before the end of this year.

Btw. we will kill this thread and open another one soon as this one really doesn't make sense anymore. So many comments are obsolete.

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This information is very helpful. Then I'm looking forward to the result!

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@ sebastian : i have been waiting for 2 years as well and you and your team have been moving the timeline quarter by quarter. i really hope this time it is a solid timeline. can you please cofirm that the new ios version will work with existing hardware ? thanks.

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I am not IT so I can’t say anything about realistic timelines, but I wanted to thank the entire Zipato team for their work to make a good system even better.


I am happy with using the current interface and of course some things can be improved. But compared with other smart home offers, Zipato offers still a solid and good looking interface.


So guys, keep up the great work and looking forward to seeing the new app whenever it is ready!

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There will be many architectural changes once the app go out, but in general all current systems will be compatible.

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I got this answer from support 2 days ago. I asked for status update on Google Home, New hardware and new apps. Didnt get any new information at all.


Id say we will have to wait another couple of months at least..


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I can confirm Zipato is quite far in the development of their new multi-platform app. We were shown a live demo in september at the IFA tradeshow:

https://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/59563/ifa-zipato-toont-zipatile-2-home-automation-controller-en-nieuwe-app

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Hi Sebastian, any update about the development of new app? Thanks

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Filip, Interested in offering Test Drive for iOS?

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Hi,

I'm interested. How can i try?

Thank you

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Interested as well! Any beta program?

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Wow. The screenshots in the CES 2019 invitation looks really nice, I think!

Is there a chance that the IOS app will be released in app store after the show this week or will it take some more time?

Hopeful! :)

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Just got an email promoting the new app(s) and from a first glance change is cooooming!

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Looks really great on the marketing email.

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Is there a release date? Or again just a "coming soon"

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coming soon... so end of year (I don't know which one though)

the thread was opened 2 years ago, by zipato themself, and still nothing (what is shown at CES can be video layers or mockups, who knows!) it is like google home support, promise as top priority few months ago, now it is not priority.

They just don't care of customers, just thinking installing their crap stuffs in large building to screw a large number of forced clients.. who don't have the choice as installed in their homes.

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They just announced release dates: (see attachement)

Zipabox 2 - January

Zipatile 2 - February

Mobile App - February Beta and March Official


Cheers!

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2019 ;-)

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Year is not mentionned :)

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Any news on whether the Zipatile 2 will be HomeKit "Bridge-approved"?

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Zipatile 2 March not february

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For a Zipabox 2, it would be good to get an understanding as to why one would upgrade. I mean, my existing ZipaBox 1 is doing its job very well at the moment. I wonder what I would gain by upgrading the hardware (and reconfiguring everything again!)

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Any news about the beta version of the new app?


Thanks

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