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is the DoorBird Video Door Station D101 going to work with the zipatile?
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I just preordered a zipatile and found that they have an open api for this ip doorcam. it uses SIP protocal and control4 has a plugin already. they currently only have an ios/android app available. will you be adding or assisting with incorporating this with the sip capabilities of the zipatile?
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Real-time notifications may not work
Matthew, I saw your post on DoorBird facebook page. Now there is definitely one answer: If someone buys a doorbird and tries it with ZipaTile.
Zipato, Can you please get in touch with Doorbird? They say that the SIP-module is currently provided under NDA as private API to our development partners only. Surely this can be done on your end. D101 looks a great product at not too high price.
Matthew, I saw your post on DoorBird facebook page. Now there is definitely one answer: If someone buys a doorbird and tries it with ZipaTile.
Zipato, Can you please get in touch with Doorbird? They say that the SIP-module is currently provided under NDA as private API to our development partners only. Surely this can be done on your end. D101 looks a great product at not too high price.
Hi
Any idea where to buy this HKVision?
I was looking, but found EUR 300 upwards .... Thx Tino
Hi
Any idea where to buy this HKVision?
I was looking, but found EUR 300 upwards .... Thx Tino
This is a czech site. The IP version is around 150-180 Euro http://www.viakom.cz/hikvision-ds-kv8102-ip/product-1322 Not sure if they sent to foreign though. You would need to call them and check.
On this site there are various ones, but not sure if any one of them is the right model. http://express-alarm.cz/?c=482/ip-vstupni-tabla
And a slovak site, price is not shown as you need to register and be logged in to see prices http://express-alarm.obchodymrp.sk/dskv8102ip-vstupna-ip-kamera-s-citackou-2174
This is a czech site. The IP version is around 150-180 Euro http://www.viakom.cz/hikvision-ds-kv8102-ip/product-1322 Not sure if they sent to foreign though. You would need to call them and check.
On this site there are various ones, but not sure if any one of them is the right model. http://express-alarm.cz/?c=482/ip-vstupni-tabla
And a slovak site, price is not shown as you need to register and be logged in to see prices http://express-alarm.obchodymrp.sk/dskv8102ip-vstupna-ip-kamera-s-citackou-2174
And one more here http://www.bkeesti.ee/tooted/hikvision-eramu-ip-kutsepaneel-ds-kv8102-ip/
And one more here http://www.bkeesti.ee/tooted/hikvision-eramu-ip-kutsepaneel-ds-kv8102-ip/
Thank you
I'll definitely look for that.
Thank you
I'll definitely look for that.
doorbird integration is underway, be patient. And from my experience, and I have tested ring, doorbot, and skybell, the Doorbird is far superior in voice, picture and connection speed. Not to mention the additional options that are or will be available with it.
doorbird integration is underway, be patient. And from my experience, and I have tested ring, doorbot, and skybell, the Doorbird is far superior in voice, picture and connection speed. Not to mention the additional options that are or will be available with it.
Doorbird integration is close and I mean, really close. I found a great article where that talk about Doorbird and its integration. As I understood, there are some tricks to connect it yourself. If you some of you have interest in reading, I'll leave the link for you. http://wirelessdoorbellreview.com/doorbell-reviews/doorbird-review/
Doorbird integration is close and I mean, really close. I found a great article where that talk about Doorbird and its integration. As I understood, there are some tricks to connect it yourself. If you some of you have interest in reading, I'll leave the link for you. http://wirelessdoorbellreview.com/doorbell-reviews/doorbird-review/
We are planing to do it, but we are currently too busy with our Intercom integration. It is matter of weeks now...
We are planing to do it, but we are currently too busy with our Intercom integration. It is matter of weeks now...
yes it is coming, i have been in contact with doorbird and once cedia is over this will start to happen. Zipato are Doorbird SIP is different to Zipatos SIP and there is a bit of work to be done beforehand. It is not the api or video, but the sound that is the issue
Also Zipato are still finalizing their SIP server feature. Trust me, nobody wants this to happen more than I.
I will be the best collaboration for Doorbird. This provides them with a SIP server together with a wall tablet. Perfect.
yes it is coming, i have been in contact with doorbird and once cedia is over this will start to happen. Zipato are Doorbird SIP is different to Zipatos SIP and there is a bit of work to be done beforehand. It is not the api or video, but the sound that is the issue
Also Zipato are still finalizing their SIP server feature. Trust me, nobody wants this to happen more than I.
I will be the best collaboration for Doorbird. This provides them with a SIP server together with a wall tablet. Perfect.
Whats the Doorbird integration actual state?
Anyone got this Hikvision Doorcom working with the Zipatile?
Whats the Doorbird integration actual state?
Anyone got this Hikvision Doorcom working with the Zipatile?
Hikvision will be same issue as rest. You will need to wait for Zipato to implement them. I dont think there is one standard of SIP, and I dont know how Zipato has configured there SIP either yet.
But I know Doorbird will happen soon. Doorbird have not finished their cloud SIP but there local sip is available and this is what I hope Zipato work with. Fingers crossed.
Hikvision will be same issue as rest. You will need to wait for Zipato to implement them. I dont think there is one standard of SIP, and I dont know how Zipato has configured there SIP either yet.
But I know Doorbird will happen soon. Doorbird have not finished their cloud SIP but there local sip is available and this is what I hope Zipato work with. Fingers crossed.
Sebastian from Zipato told me to use doorbird application on zipatile in order to make it work. It doesn't say anything about this device integration in Zipato ecosystem.
Sebastian from Zipato told me to use doorbird application on zipatile in order to make it work. It doesn't say anything about this device integration in Zipato ecosystem.
I am looking to buy a zipatile but also need a door phone/video , that works with it.
Any news that the doorbird is working now with the zipato ? thanks
I am looking to buy a zipatile but also need a door phone/video , that works with it.
Any news that the doorbird is working now with the zipato ? thanks
Me too - any update on this as I already have both the Zipatile and the Doorbird!
Me too - any update on this as I already have both the Zipatile and the Doorbird!
Ian, can you not try to do the integration based on the video for Helios on youtube?
Ian, can you not try to do the integration based on the video for Helios on youtube?
Another vote for Doorbird integration. The Doorbird app can be sideloaded and it works when in the foreground, but I can't get it running in the background, so no notifications.
Another vote for Doorbird integration. The Doorbird app can be sideloaded and it works when in the foreground, but I can't get it running in the background, so no notifications.
Thanks Adrian. Think I'll have a go at using the api - had a quick play with it and it doesn't look too complex
Thanks Adrian. Think I'll have a go at using the api - had a quick play with it and it doesn't look too complex
It would be very cool if you can describe "how" if you get it running. I´m still searching for a an affordable doorbell/doorspeech solution for the zipatile.
It would be very cool if you can describe "how" if you get it running. I´m still searching for a an affordable doorbell/doorspeech solution for the zipatile.
If anybody is using the Doorbird currently and want to integrate it into the Zipatile more, I can only tell you what I have done.
Firstly i downloaded the latest apk of TinyCamMonitor Pro and installed this on the Zipatile. This app allos you to connect the Doorbird unit to it, aswell as the Birdguard units. When selecting Brand Doorbird should be there. The best thing is it works over local ip too. You have options for door Open door, Talk and Listen and instigate IR light. With this app you can also set it up as an NVR, great for a Second Zipatile that is not doing/controlling any other device.
Next you will need to set up a virtual sensor in Zipato. Once done, find its url and copy this. search for URL encoder online and enter the url in the field, make sure to enter 1 after the = sign. Encode. Copy this encoded url.
next use the api for notification request. at the end it shoudl look like this depending on whether you set it up for doorbell , opendoor or motion notification request.
http://username:passwordd@yourlocal ip address of the doorbird here/bha-api/notification.cgi?url=here is the encoded url of the virtual sensor in zipato&event=doorbell&subscribe=1
now you have a sensor that is activated by pushing the doorbel button on the doorbird. Use it to activte the doorbell sound on the zipatile or whatever you want.
Enjoy
If anybody is using the Doorbird currently and want to integrate it into the Zipatile more, I can only tell you what I have done.
Firstly i downloaded the latest apk of TinyCamMonitor Pro and installed this on the Zipatile. This app allos you to connect the Doorbird unit to it, aswell as the Birdguard units. When selecting Brand Doorbird should be there. The best thing is it works over local ip too. You have options for door Open door, Talk and Listen and instigate IR light. With this app you can also set it up as an NVR, great for a Second Zipatile that is not doing/controlling any other device.
Next you will need to set up a virtual sensor in Zipato. Once done, find its url and copy this. search for URL encoder online and enter the url in the field, make sure to enter 1 after the = sign. Encode. Copy this encoded url.
next use the api for notification request. at the end it shoudl look like this depending on whether you set it up for doorbell , opendoor or motion notification request.
http://username:passwordd@yourlocal ip address of the doorbird here/bha-api/notification.cgi?url=here is the encoded url of the virtual sensor in zipato&event=doorbell&subscribe=1
now you have a sensor that is activated by pushing the doorbel button on the doorbird. Use it to activte the doorbell sound on the zipatile or whatever you want.
Enjoy
Thanks Adrian - looks like a bit of learning involved to make this happen, but its a good way to learn.
Cheers,
David
Thanks Adrian - looks like a bit of learning involved to make this happen, but its a good way to learn.
Cheers,
David
Adrian,
I have also integrates using the combi of Doorbird bha api calls and virtual switches/sensors on the Zipatile. I however want to share that the notification from the Doorbird, specifically when it comes to motion is not 100% stable. Quite often events are missed and no notification is sent, hence not picked up on the zipatile. I had submitted a ticked with Doorbird and there answer basically was: bad luck, the api is not production like functionality. So I moved away from it and installed a normal motion sensor close to the Doorbird. On the push-button from the Doorbird I choose another apporach than the bha api notitifcation. I just connected a Fibaro Universal Sensor to the the wires on the Doorbird (being non-potential connection). This works flawlessly without any dependency on either the cloud (for the Zipato virtual thingies or the Doorbird api).
My2c
Roland
Adrian,
I have also integrates using the combi of Doorbird bha api calls and virtual switches/sensors on the Zipatile. I however want to share that the notification from the Doorbird, specifically when it comes to motion is not 100% stable. Quite often events are missed and no notification is sent, hence not picked up on the zipatile. I had submitted a ticked with Doorbird and there answer basically was: bad luck, the api is not production like functionality. So I moved away from it and installed a normal motion sensor close to the Doorbird. On the push-button from the Doorbird I choose another apporach than the bha api notitifcation. I just connected a Fibaro Universal Sensor to the the wires on the Doorbird (being non-potential connection). This works flawlessly without any dependency on either the cloud (for the Zipato virtual thingies or the Doorbird api).
My2c
Roland
Looks like DoorBird D101 has started to appear quietly in Zipato Control Center discovery... not quite there yet! Visible in discovery but not implemented correctly for production use.
Secret is out ;)
Looks like DoorBird D101 has started to appear quietly in Zipato Control Center discovery... not quite there yet! Visible in discovery but not implemented correctly for production use.
Secret is out ;)
good news ! I saw this option in a empty box in the add devices wizard :)
good news ! I saw this option in a empty box in the add devices wizard :)
Doorbird integration is in final stage, next week it should be available in public release. In order to use doorbird device new zipabox/zipatile firmware needs to be installed. Cheers
Doorbird integration is in final stage, next week it should be available in public release. In order to use doorbird device new zipabox/zipatile firmware needs to be installed. Cheers
Seems doorbird D101 is slightly expensive, and the reviews on amazon imply this device is not very good?
Seems doorbird D101 is slightly expensive, and the reviews on amazon imply this device is not very good?
any update?
any update?
Doorbird basic functionality is ready and tested, in few hours new changes should be available after deployment.
Doorbird basic functionality is ready and tested, in few hours new changes should be available after deployment.
Alright. Will test over weekend
Alright. Will test over weekend
Getting any closer this week, team Zipato?
Getting any closer this week, team Zipato?
Today I have spotted the doorbird app on my zipatile in the app repo after refresh to see if there are any updates. I clicked on install, but did not install. perhaps i have to keep the display always on.
Can you see the app on app repo?
Today I have spotted the doorbird app on my zipatile in the app repo after refresh to see if there are any updates. I clicked on install, but did not install. perhaps i have to keep the display always on.
Can you see the app on app repo?
Hellyeah! I installed it.
Does that mean, a doorbird hardware will now work on the zipatile and I can speak/hear people who are ringing? That would be awesome ^^
Hellyeah! I installed it.
Does that mean, a doorbird hardware will now work on the zipatile and I can speak/hear people who are ringing? That would be awesome ^^
That leaves us with one more step to find out: Does anyone have doorbird and can try it? Surely I believe that by having the app in app repo it will support the notifications so like you use the doorbird on tablet...This way you dont need to integrate it to zipato - all functionalities are supported via the doorbird app, then you dont really need to.
That leaves us with one more step to find out: Does anyone have doorbird and can try it? Surely I believe that by having the app in app repo it will support the notifications so like you use the doorbird on tablet...This way you dont need to integrate it to zipato - all functionalities are supported via the doorbird app, then you dont really need to.
Attila,
Yes I have one. I will test it but not at this moment. I currently have issues (Zipato support/dev team working really hard to try and help) with the Zipato app on the Zipatile (it does not show devices/rooms whatever firmware we run and what we do). As long as that is not resolved I will not make changes to the system in order to not frustate all of the efforts of the Zipato team trying to resolve my issue.
As soon as that is done I will test my Doorbird with the app and let you know what happens.
Roland
Attila,
Yes I have one. I will test it but not at this moment. I currently have issues (Zipato support/dev team working really hard to try and help) with the Zipato app on the Zipatile (it does not show devices/rooms whatever firmware we run and what we do). As long as that is not resolved I will not make changes to the system in order to not frustate all of the efforts of the Zipato team trying to resolve my issue.
As soon as that is done I will test my Doorbird with the app and let you know what happens.
Roland
I tried yesterday. Gived an error when adding and then slowly adds a light sensor, a light swith, a relay and a doorbird IP but no camera. But it does not work. There is no real connection between the zipatile and the doorbird: when switched off the doorbird does not appear offline.
I tried yesterday. Gived an error when adding and then slowly adds a light sensor, a light swith, a relay and a doorbird IP but no camera. But it does not work. There is no real connection between the zipatile and the doorbird: when switched off the doorbird does not appear offline.
Bit of an odd setup to make the DoorBird app part of the Zipatile repo, might as well support other nice things that way then. Would have thought they would leverage the nice APIs it has instead, make it more native to Zipatile
Bit of an odd setup to make the DoorBird app part of the Zipatile repo, might as well support other nice things that way then. Would have thought they would leverage the nice APIs it has instead, make it more native to Zipatile
The api will be used as this app does not require you to set up doorbird in web ui.
Not sure but I think there will be 2 possible approaches:
1. you just want the doorbird native functionalities and use zipatile as display device (without proper integration into smarthome. You will be using the app from app repo
2. Proper integration via zipato cloud add device...
Time will tell how it works.
The api will be used as this app does not require you to set up doorbird in web ui.
Not sure but I think there will be 2 possible approaches:
1. you just want the doorbird native functionalities and use zipatile as display device (without proper integration into smarthome. You will be using the app from app repo
2. Proper integration via zipato cloud add device...
Time will tell how it works.
I hope it will support the zipatile relais for the door opener... Otherwise it would not make too much sense for me
I hope it will support the zipatile relais for the door opener... Otherwise it would not make too much sense for me
Doorbird basic functionalities are available on my.zipato where D101, D101S and D202 devices can be added. If your device doesn't appear on the list please provide correct model number so it can be updated in descriptor database. After inclusion, don't forget to sync and refresh. Video tutorial will be available tomorrow.
Currently, camera is not available because it is still under implementation process.
Doorbird basic functionalities are available on my.zipato where D101, D101S and D202 devices can be added. If your device doesn't appear on the list please provide correct model number so it can be updated in descriptor database. After inclusion, don't forget to sync and refresh. Video tutorial will be available tomorrow.
Currently, camera is not available because it is still under implementation process.
Ok, so loaded up everything correctly... few bugs (usual spelling :| )
You get the official DoorBird app (video / audio support..), not sure how that fits in yet
A few buttons hooked up to the APIs after the discovery installation; door lock, Light, and Doorbell (touch sensor), and motion. They all work on the events. Good job, although I had that before via the notifications and the other APIs
Looks like you have to hook up the events to the installed app to launch. Is that the intention?
Ok, so loaded up everything correctly... few bugs (usual spelling :| )
You get the official DoorBird app (video / audio support..), not sure how that fits in yet
A few buttons hooked up to the APIs after the discovery installation; door lock, Light, and Doorbell (touch sensor), and motion. They all work on the events. Good job, although I had that before via the notifications and the other APIs
Looks like you have to hook up the events to the installed app to launch. Is that the intention?
I just added my DoorBird. It works like a charm :) I can talk, open the door, see video and history. It would only be even greater as somehow the video feed could pop up as soon as the doorbell is pressed. Maybe a tip for the devs?
I just added my DoorBird. It works like a charm :) I can talk, open the door, see video and history. It would only be even greater as somehow the video feed could pop up as soon as the doorbell is pressed. Maybe a tip for the devs?
You mean you added the DoorBird App? Not the discoverable services made by Zipato?
It might make sense if they use the APIs to serve up the video.cgi stream, and the audio listen / transmit, then its all native to Zipato (all of those APIs work well), still not sure why we need the actual DoorBird Android app
You mean you added the DoorBird App? Not the discoverable services made by Zipato?
It might make sense if they use the APIs to serve up the video.cgi stream, and the audio listen / transmit, then its all native to Zipato (all of those APIs work well), still not sure why we need the actual DoorBird Android app
Can Zipato clarify which API they are hitting during the monitoring, is the streaming connection or the polling (stateful) one? This impacts other use cases with Doorbird.
Can Zipato clarify which API they are hitting during the monitoring, is the streaming connection or the polling (stateful) one? This impacts other use cases with Doorbird.
DoorBird is already supported but we are still testing it before publishing. You can currently see only parts of the integration, so please don't use it until it is officially published. This will probably happen by the end of the week so there won't be too much waiting anyway.
As for the integration, DoorBird application will be necessary for communication with the DoorBird station. However, DoorBird station will be integrated completely within Zipato system, so you will be able to see IP camera, and motion sensor / button to trigger rules in rule creator.
DoorBird is already supported but we are still testing it before publishing. You can currently see only parts of the integration, so please don't use it until it is officially published. This will probably happen by the end of the week so there won't be too much waiting anyway.
As for the integration, DoorBird application will be necessary for communication with the DoorBird station. However, DoorBird station will be integrated completely within Zipato system, so you will be able to see IP camera, and motion sensor / button to trigger rules in rule creator.
I agree with Adrian: "What about making this work natively in the same ui as zipatile intercom - would look amazing there and a lot better than the doorbird app."
I agree with Adrian: "What about making this work natively in the same ui as zipatile intercom - would look amazing there and a lot better than the doorbird app."
Doorbird works in two mods; natively with Doorbird app and as Intercom with SIP protocol. Intercom integration is at 50% of implementation because it still has few issues with calling setup and due to fact that Doorbird can not work without Internet connectivity (Doorbird Cloud communication). Goal is to support both mods at the same time.
Doorbird works in two mods; natively with Doorbird app and as Intercom with SIP protocol. Intercom integration is at 50% of implementation because it still has few issues with calling setup and due to fact that Doorbird can not work without Internet connectivity (Doorbird Cloud communication). Goal is to support both mods at the same time.
Can zipato reveal which of the doorbird endpoints they are polling - as it is incredibly frequent 20 per second. Causing operational issues with doorbird or are you subscribing to the stream api? Or notifications api?
Can zipato reveal which of the doorbird endpoints they are polling - as it is incredibly frequent 20 per second. Causing operational issues with doorbird or are you subscribing to the stream api? Or notifications api?
Hi Tomislav,
We installed via App Repo, the doorbird application does not give a ringtone notification. When ringer rings, does not come on main screen (when backplane is off)
Best Regards,
Mehmet
Hi Tomislav,
We installed via App Repo, the doorbird application does not give a ringtone notification. When ringer rings, does not come on main screen (when backplane is off)
Best Regards,
Mehmet
Got the Doorbird recognised by upgrading te Zipatile Firmware to the Beta version.
Also the Doorbird app became available in the App repostory.
Button, Light and Relay are accessible. The camera is listed as an IP device but does not appear in the Camera list.
Scene can be created: for example when the button is pressed.
Now waiting for Camera support and a beautiful Zipatile native interface.
Got the Doorbird recognised by upgrading te Zipatile Firmware to the Beta version.
Also the Doorbird app became available in the App repostory.
Button, Light and Relay are accessible. The camera is listed as an IP device but does not appear in the Camera list.
Scene can be created: for example when the button is pressed.
Now waiting for Camera support and a beautiful Zipatile native interface.
Did it need the beta, didn't think it did?
Did it need the beta, didn't think it did?
New beta will contain fix for doorbird notifications, more info soon
New beta will contain fix for doorbird notifications, more info soon
Hi,
u can add the camera on your own:
rtsp://IP:8557/mpeg/media.amp
MJPEG Stream http://IP/bha-api/video.cgi
Snapshot http://IP/bha-api/image.cgi
regards Helle
Hi,
u can add the camera on your own:
rtsp://IP:8557/mpeg/media.amp
MJPEG Stream http://IP/bha-api/video.cgi
Snapshot http://IP/bha-api/image.cgi
regards Helle
Looking at the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpnAsFYqcEU, at the end it shows a demonstration. I can not get it added to the Intercom app or call via the intercom app, do we have to enter the Doorbird Sip url ourselves? or should it automatically add?
Looking at the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpnAsFYqcEU, at the end it shows a demonstration. I can not get it added to the Intercom app or call via the intercom app, do we have to enter the Doorbird Sip url ourselves? or should it automatically add?
Sip for doorbird will come in due time, first is camera integration on schedule.
Sip for doorbird will come in due time, first is camera integration on schedule.
After a few weeks of use and testing something is wrong with reliability or the setup. First two things are fine; door open and door light (those are simple rest calls so can't go wrong there).
Issues with stability on motion and doorbell events are not holding up for me over a day or so. I'm bringing the chat here to see if others experience the fault. Support have been ace so far to remotely restart and get it running but so far it never holds up. It's known doorbird will restart their own units periodically to avoid being stale.
Is anyone else in the same position with this working from time to time thyen dropping off completely?
After a few weeks of use and testing something is wrong with reliability or the setup. First two things are fine; door open and door light (those are simple rest calls so can't go wrong there).
Issues with stability on motion and doorbell events are not holding up for me over a day or so. I'm bringing the chat here to see if others experience the fault. Support have been ace so far to remotely restart and get it running but so far it never holds up. It's known doorbird will restart their own units periodically to avoid being stale.
Is anyone else in the same position with this working from time to time thyen dropping off completely?
Does this integration work for anyone, for longer than a day? My own node client in homebridge holds up for longer..
So has the intercom integration (worth the 100) not happen now? I've gained very little over the notification api I used to use triggering the alarm noise..
Does this integration work for anyone, for longer than a day? My own node client in homebridge holds up for longer..
So has the intercom integration (worth the 100) not happen now? I've gained very little over the notification api I used to use triggering the alarm noise..
Does the integration still work for people with latest doorbird firmware?
Does the integration still work for people with latest doorbird firmware?
It seems yes
It seems yes
i cant comment, i gave up on the sip and doorbird option as it still operated over cloud. We have been using Linphone apk to get better connection with Doorbird intercom over LAN, and subscribing to the notification api as you were previously. the Monitoring api does not seem very good. This way we can also use a PBX controller and distribute and manage the calls over multiple phones and/or zipatiles/tablets.
i cant comment, i gave up on the sip and doorbird option as it still operated over cloud. We have been using Linphone apk to get better connection with Doorbird intercom over LAN, and subscribing to the notification api as you were previously. the Monitoring api does not seem very good. This way we can also use a PBX controller and distribute and manage the calls over multiple phones and/or zipatiles/tablets.
Any update as to when this integration will work properly?
I get about a few hours or a day at best and then it's back to failure again
Any update as to when this integration will work properly?
I get about a few hours or a day at best and then it's back to failure again
Try to upgrade to the latest version. Although I dont think it will help, it worth a try.
The backup is now seems to be working
Try to upgrade to the latest version. Although I dont think it will help, it worth a try.
The backup is now seems to be working
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