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Help on the wiring of Zipato MM Switch Single

Eric T. shared this question 7 years ago
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Hi, I want to be able to command an electric water heater through a micromodule single switch. I have a switch outside my bathroom that allows me to switch it on and of and I don't know what to do with my Zipato switch.

Either wire it between my switch and my water heater, in which case the Zipato switch would appear off line in case I turn off the current manual switch or use one of the S1 ou S2 connection on the micromodule in which case I suppose the micromodule would remain online.

Any suggestion (providing you understood my question LOL!)

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basically eric, you need the micro module powered at all times so it can communicate with the zipato controller, receive and send information over zwave. If power is cut to the micro module, it will go offline, thus not acting as a z-wave repeater to make you network stronger or be able to send communication to the HUB if the manual wall switch is triggered.

In your example, triggering the wall switch will only power on the micro module, it will not act as a message to the micro module to turn on the output(heater) or the Zipato HUB. It also will take a minute for the micro module to power up and establish a connection with the Zipato HUB. And powering off a module like this can make then loose connection with the Zipato controller altogether and then require you to re pair the device.

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Please see attached pic

- The Load is the heater in your case

- This will allow you to control the heater through Zipato system and manually

- Make sure that the heater doesn't exceed 11A ( max load for single switch is 11 A)

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- The SS has three Switch types, you can find them here


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Thank you very much Abdalrahman. I just wonder why this wiring is preferable to just inserting the microswitch after the light switch (well I understand that if I do that and that someone turns off the light switch the microswitch will appear off line in my Zipato dashboard, but what difference does it really make?

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The micro-switch will not appear offline even though the wall switch is turned off, please see attached pic, it may help you understand why

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- The inner switch controls the load directly (turn it ON/OFF)

- The wall switch is connected to S1 terminal, S1 doesn't control the load directly, it works as an input to the micro-switch.

- When the wall switch changes to ON or OFF -- > S1 receives this change and micro-switch reacts to this based on the switch type (please refer to previous comment)


I hope I made it clear

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This is not a conventional parallel or series connection

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I know, but my question is about this wiring. What's the difference (appart that the microswitch will appear off line if I switch the manual switch off).207405087d8ce26b100d28f29cae5a01

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I think this is the only difference

the micro-switch will not operate at all when wall switch is off

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That's what I think too. In fact your wiring makes much more sense of course, but I was just curious.

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btw, the wiring I sent to you is same as the wiring provided in the manual, but colored

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Yes, yes I know! - Much better in colour though ;-)

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They merged the two topics in one topic, and my comments appear duplicated,

could you please delete duplicated comments?

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Well I cannot delete anything, that's the problem. They even left the "Disregard this post"!!!

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basically eric, you need the micro module powered at all times so it can communicate with the zipato controller, receive and send information over zwave. If power is cut to the micro module, it will go offline, thus not acting as a z-wave repeater to make you network stronger or be able to send communication to the HUB if the manual wall switch is triggered.

In your example, triggering the wall switch will only power on the micro module, it will not act as a message to the micro module to turn on the output(heater) or the Zipato HUB. It also will take a minute for the micro module to power up and establish a connection with the Zipato HUB. And powering off a module like this can make then loose connection with the Zipato controller altogether and then require you to re pair the device.

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Yes, all these arguments make sense. Thank you. My only concern actually is that the water heater switch has a neon indicator (to indicate whether the water heater is on or not). If I wire it "the proper way" (like Abdalrahman said), I don't think the neon will work correctly - but I'll give it a try.

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You will need to simply configure the switch type as bistable with indicator. This way the switch position will be respected as far as I know. But trust me, it will be your smallest concern.

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Thanks Attila. Will try that. Actually it's important for me as I live in a country under the UK Influence and it is compulsory to have a switch for your water heater and that the neon indicator shows which status it is on.

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Well, it still will not be 100%. Imagine that the manual switch is on and the system turns the heating off. The purpose of the bistable switch with indicator is that when you flick the switch to off, nothing will happen and it will turn on once you flick back to on position. If you need 100% indicator statur, you will need to wire an indicator LED light to the output of the module.

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I know, that's what I'm trying to plan. The best would be if I could use the indicator that is directly on the manual switch, but I doubt I can wire it separately (the indicator must be built-in the manual switch). I'm searching... ;-) But if worst comes to worst I can always have a separate indicator.

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or buy a momentary button with LED indicator. This will work.

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By "momentary button", you mean a toggle (push button), Adrian?

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