Hue + Hue Lamps + Zipabox / Zipatile
I have started experimenting with Hue, Hue Lamps, Zipabox and Zipatile and thus ask the Community for their experience in answering the following questions:
1: As Zipatile supports Zigbee directly, and the Hue Lamps works on Zigbee, is the Hue bridge necessary, or can the Zipatile control all Hue lamps directly?
2: In a scenario where a Zipabox is connected to the Hue controller, and more lamps are added to the Hue controller, what is the correct procedure to get the new lamps available and controlable via Zipato?
3: The Hue app is quite nice at controlling both the color of the RGB lamps, and the Kelvin of the white lamps. What is the best way to "read" the current set color and/or kelvin settings in use, from the Hue lamps, in order to create scene settings in the Zipato world?
Best,
Robert
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Hi Robert
You can use your Hue Lamps both ways. With Zigbee (you need the the zigbee module) or with the Hue Plugin.
If you want to use witz Zigbee you will have to get rid of the Hue Bridge and disconnect all the lamps from the bridge first. You will also not be able to use the Hue App anymore as your lamps will not be connected to the bridge.
That's why I use the Plugin. Like that you can still use the Hue App.
Easiest way to use the Hue Lamps is to create scenes where you can set the brightness and color of each lamp and then activate the scene in your rules. There is just one issue with Scenes. When you activate one when your lamps are off then the scene settings are not transferred correctly and you need to activate the scene again (so 2x in fact with a pause of 1 second in between). As soon as your lamps are on then activating a scene works really quick.
I cannot answer questions 2 and 3. I only get new lamps today and will have to integrate them tonight so will have to figure out also how to do this.
I hope this is helping.
Beat
Hi Robert
You can use your Hue Lamps both ways. With Zigbee (you need the the zigbee module) or with the Hue Plugin.
If you want to use witz Zigbee you will have to get rid of the Hue Bridge and disconnect all the lamps from the bridge first. You will also not be able to use the Hue App anymore as your lamps will not be connected to the bridge.
That's why I use the Plugin. Like that you can still use the Hue App.
Easiest way to use the Hue Lamps is to create scenes where you can set the brightness and color of each lamp and then activate the scene in your rules. There is just one issue with Scenes. When you activate one when your lamps are off then the scene settings are not transferred correctly and you need to activate the scene again (so 2x in fact with a pause of 1 second in between). As soon as your lamps are on then activating a scene works really quick.
I cannot answer questions 2 and 3. I only get new lamps today and will have to integrate them tonight so will have to figure out also how to do this.
I hope this is helping.
Beat
not 100% sure but i dont think the hue works directly with zipabox+zigbee module since it uses the Light Link protocol?
it has to go through the hue gateway.
not 100% sure but i dont think the hue works directly with zipabox+zigbee module since it uses the Light Link protocol?
it has to go through the hue gateway.
2:
=> I don't know the correct procedure. The only way that worked in order to add new hue bulbs, was for me to add the hue bridge again. This added just the new lamps and did not add doubles.
3:
=> I don't think you can do this. My Zipabox does not notice any change of state. I would welcome this too.
2:
=> I don't know the correct procedure. The only way that worked in order to add new hue bulbs, was for me to add the hue bridge again. This added just the new lamps and did not add doubles.
3:
=> I don't think you can do this. My Zipabox does not notice any change of state. I would welcome this too.
3. Yes, You can do that:
You log in to the HUE API and read all current settings, I use the HUE scenes without having the bridge added to the Zipato at all. I use rules to activate different scenes.
Register here for access to the HUE API, it is very interesting.
http://www.developers.meethue.com/philips-hue-api
3. Yes, You can do that:
You log in to the HUE API and read all current settings, I use the HUE scenes without having the bridge added to the Zipato at all. I use rules to activate different scenes.
Register here for access to the HUE API, it is very interesting.
http://www.developers.meethue.com/philips-hue-api
I have created a topic with examples of basic HTTP commands if someone is interested. After a little bit I figure out my problems...
https://community.zipato.com/topic/phillips-hue-basic-http-control
I have created a topic with examples of basic HTTP commands if someone is interested. After a little bit I figure out my problems...
https://community.zipato.com/topic/phillips-hue-basic-http-control
I have bought hue and suffering from same issue having to trigger the 'On' scene twice.
I have found a workaround, using a virtual level control and a rule that reacts to the different values by sending various http requests thanks to Alberto's tips above. I then can setup a scene with each meter value: running the scene will then fire the appropriate http request.
For instance, I have a level control called 'Hue Scenes' and create a rule that
if meter is 0, it sends http://192.168.1.x/api/userkey/groups/2/action with a body of {"on":false} to turn lights off
if meter is 1, it sends http://192.168.1.x/api/userkey/groups/2/action with a body of {"on":true,"bri":200,"effect":"colorloop"} to activate color loop.
I have bought hue and suffering from same issue having to trigger the 'On' scene twice.
I have found a workaround, using a virtual level control and a rule that reacts to the different values by sending various http requests thanks to Alberto's tips above. I then can setup a scene with each meter value: running the scene will then fire the appropriate http request.
For instance, I have a level control called 'Hue Scenes' and create a rule that
if meter is 0, it sends http://192.168.1.x/api/userkey/groups/2/action with a body of {"on":false} to turn lights off
if meter is 1, it sends http://192.168.1.x/api/userkey/groups/2/action with a body of {"on":true,"bri":200,"effect":"colorloop"} to activate color loop.
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