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Upgrade from Zipabox to Zipatile worth the effort?
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I am considering a shift from Zipabox to Zipatile or perhaps Fibaro Home Center 2. Primarily because of unstable operation and way to many dropouts from Zipabox.
With 60 devices the Zipabox is so slow that it often hangs for seconds or even minutes when using the alarm.
So will the Zipatile be more stable and faster?
And do I lose anything going for Zipatile instead of Zipabox?
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Thomas
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I had the Zipabox (with 433Mhz module). I upgraded to the zipatile some time back and I have gone all z-wave (zipatile does not support 433MHz), so in short, I have more units connected to the zipatile than I had with the zipabox, so not really a fair comparsion.
However. I have 50 devices connected to the zipatile today. I do not experience it slow at all. Works as expected regarding speed.
Yes, zipato has their issues and also I have concidered switching to the HC2. Fibaro may be more stable, have better GUI etc. But I find that Zipato has more flexibility and better support for devices which kind of makes up for it. Also, having the ZIpatile as a dashboard next to the door is a nice thing that you cannot really do with the fibaro solution.
I had the Zipabox (with 433Mhz module). I upgraded to the zipatile some time back and I have gone all z-wave (zipatile does not support 433MHz), so in short, I have more units connected to the zipatile than I had with the zipabox, so not really a fair comparsion.
However. I have 50 devices connected to the zipatile today. I do not experience it slow at all. Works as expected regarding speed.
Yes, zipato has their issues and also I have concidered switching to the HC2. Fibaro may be more stable, have better GUI etc. But I find that Zipato has more flexibility and better support for devices which kind of makes up for it. Also, having the ZIpatile as a dashboard next to the door is a nice thing that you cannot really do with the fibaro solution.
Will it be possible to transfer all devices from Zipabox to Zipatile. Or does it want to add them again on Zipatile?
If you have to add them again on Zipatile means to do a lot of work and changes on the rules!
Please let me know as I'm also on Zipabox and maybe want to move.
Thank you.
Beat
Will it be possible to transfer all devices from Zipabox to Zipatile. Or does it want to add them again on Zipatile?
If you have to add them again on Zipatile means to do a lot of work and changes on the rules!
Please let me know as I'm also on Zipabox and maybe want to move.
Thank you.
Beat
When I did it you had to re-bind every unit to the new controller. It was actually faster done than expected. The in-wall units almost always enables include mode by triple clicking the momentary switch connected to it.
I think that the new backup function might be usable for this, has to be triggered by zipato afaik. Check with the support.
Anyway, I thought it was a way of reviewing and cleaning up my rules. One thing that I did diffrently when doing it all again was to let my "good night" and "good morning" (light management) rules trigger scenes instead of building everything into rules. I have then also applied zipatile gestures to those scenes. In short, three fingers swiped down at the zipatile and my home goes into "sleep mode" with all gates shut, lights off, temperature lowered etc.
When I did it you had to re-bind every unit to the new controller. It was actually faster done than expected. The in-wall units almost always enables include mode by triple clicking the momentary switch connected to it.
I think that the new backup function might be usable for this, has to be triggered by zipato afaik. Check with the support.
Anyway, I thought it was a way of reviewing and cleaning up my rules. One thing that I did diffrently when doing it all again was to let my "good night" and "good morning" (light management) rules trigger scenes instead of building everything into rules. I have then also applied zipatile gestures to those scenes. In short, three fingers swiped down at the zipatile and my home goes into "sleep mode" with all gates shut, lights off, temperature lowered etc.
Thomas,
I can tell you Zipatile is indeed way faster than Zipabox, the reason I'm still using my zipabox is because of the backup module, for power and internet, I find the zipatile battery to last very few, also if you have other protocols than zwave and zigbee you are also loosing some devices.
Regarding loosing all your devices rules, it is supposed that there is a way to add a secondary controller to the same zwave network, this way the main controller forwards all the routing table information to the secondary and in case you loose your main controller the secondary can take the master role. I have contacted Zipato in order to know how to do this and even though they say is possible I haven't been able to achieve it in my tests and they haven't responded me with the appropiate procedure to do it. This way you would only need to worry about your rules.
Thomas,
I can tell you Zipatile is indeed way faster than Zipabox, the reason I'm still using my zipabox is because of the backup module, for power and internet, I find the zipatile battery to last very few, also if you have other protocols than zwave and zigbee you are also loosing some devices.
Regarding loosing all your devices rules, it is supposed that there is a way to add a secondary controller to the same zwave network, this way the main controller forwards all the routing table information to the secondary and in case you loose your main controller the secondary can take the master role. I have contacted Zipato in order to know how to do this and even though they say is possible I haven't been able to achieve it in my tests and they haven't responded me with the appropiate procedure to do it. This way you would only need to worry about your rules.
yes, i think maybe adding the Zipatile as a secondary controller might be a good option. I'll await ZipatoTV video on this.
yes, i think maybe adding the Zipatile as a secondary controller might be a good option. I'll await ZipatoTV video on this.
Hello,
I have a box and a Zipatile. Not in a cluster but as two independent systems. They communicate via http rules and virtual meters, which works very fine. I.e. I have two alarm systems on each box. If one system is armed, it sends a notification to the other system and the other system is armed too. Whenever I test something I do this on the Zipatile because it is much faster. A nice sideeffect of the Zipatile is that it is an Android System. I have running a little websever which provides special sounds and alarms siren sounds for my sonos system. So if my alarm is tripped, not only sirens are going on but my sonos too with a hell of noise :-)
Hello,
I have a box and a Zipatile. Not in a cluster but as two independent systems. They communicate via http rules and virtual meters, which works very fine. I.e. I have two alarm systems on each box. If one system is armed, it sends a notification to the other system and the other system is armed too. Whenever I test something I do this on the Zipatile because it is much faster. A nice sideeffect of the Zipatile is that it is an Android System. I have running a little websever which provides special sounds and alarms siren sounds for my sonos system. So if my alarm is tripped, not only sirens are going on but my sonos too with a hell of noise :-)
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