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Change old Bindings?

Lars Hernell shared this problem 7 years ago
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I have changed some of my devices, that are done with some bindings (from the old GUI). They are still working but now when I want to change them, I can't? I can make them "green" and save but next time I open the bindings again it looks the same, old way? How to do? FW1.0.15

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use the manage association at the last tab of the root device. In there you can call the device to confirm what associations are in which group.

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? Sorry but I don't understand where to find that tab?

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here. This will tell you what groups are available and allow you to drag devices across from left to middle window.

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Yes, but that's only for Z-wave? I want to disconnect the one (Nexa 433device) in the picture, but I can't?

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Yes, it is only for Zwave. Im not sure on what you pointed out Lars. I have never used this feature. Perhaps if Zipato cannot help via ticket just simply remove the Nexa from the network and then re-add again.

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I always wondered what associations and gropes is? Can someone explain it to me. What is it used for?


Best regards Jacob!

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It's a function in a virtual switch that operates several devices without using any rules.

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Hi Lars!


How is that different from a binding between devices? And what does groups have to do with it. A example would be nice. EA what happens if I associate one device with another in group 1? And what happens if I do the same with the other device? And what happens if I don't? And what happens if I associate several devices in a different group and and also with the same device as I have associated in another group? Conflict?


Best regards!

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For example I tested a binding between a Fibaro dimmer 2 and my BOUF 433 blind and the blind followed the dimmer value. Very fascinating. Possibilities start to get endless. If I only could get the things I miss with the Nexa WTE-2 switch and Schneider switch dimming, blinds start,stop on the sam button and Philips hue light and last but not least, Logitech Harmony suport. I will be very happy.

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Hi Jacob!

That bindings is what I use, but only with some virtual devices, Device as a device :). But I can't make any new bindings or change the ones I have? The group/association thing I've never tried to use.

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can you do it from the old web dashboard interface. Login as normal then head to here instead https://my.zipato.com/zipato-web/Dashboard

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It worked just fine in the old GUI, interesting since the support told me it can't be done with 433 devices? Thanks for the idea, thought the old GUI was killed?

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shhh, our secret. they just don't like us using it cause it can cause issues with the new command system

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Lars,

Every device have different groups of bindings, depending of the device is the amount of groups and what each group report, you can usually read about each group and their information in the device's manual. Groups are created so the zwave devices can interact with different devices at the same time. For example, usually group 1 for every device is tied to the main controller, this means that whatever group1 reports (motion, luminance, etc.) its reported to whatever device is tied to group 1 binding (i. e. zipabox). Almost every device has different groups, usually to report different things. Also almost all devices have the ability of trigger other actuators without the need of a controller (without rules), every sensor has a "basic set" function, which can be attached to an actuator and therefore turn it on and off. For example, I have a Qubino flush relay which has three inputs and one output, the first input turns ON/OFF the output (tied to a regular lamp) based on the status of the first input. Then I wired the second input to another push button and configured the relay "BasicKeySet 2" to control a Fibaro RGBW controller (See attached). So the result is that whenever the input 2 of the Qubino relay is ON, the relay will make the Fibaro RGBW controller to turn ON and viceversa, without the need of the controller (it can be offline and the devices will interact on themselves). Hope this helps.

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all good for z-wave, but Lars was asking for 433mhz devices. You are right the z-wave is better as it is a direct communication, while binding the old way still goes via the controller, it just allows a different form of communication with out creating a rule

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I just started to get some z-wave devices, so what you are saying is that I can connect /associate them via the zipabox? Does all the functionality "come along" then? example: i've got a wall switch and want to control a fibaro dimmer if I associate them I don't need to make any rules? Or is only on/off that works?

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Adrian,


Yes, this applies for Zwave. Not sure about 433 Mhz.


Lars.


Yes you can associate sensors/actuators using the Zipabox, other z-wave controller or even USB sticks like Aeon Labs z-stick. Usually they only get associated with "Basic Set" commands (ON/OFF). But I guess it depends on the device, you can see that information in the device's manual.

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sorry alberto, you say you can associate a usd stick with the zipabox? does this provide a backup of the z-wave network? Have you tried this on another controller? I woul dbe most interested to see this function working.

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