Hysteresis parameters

Agree!!!!!

My heating is very efficient and my house is completely insulated therefore the fluctuations are minimal.

When I need to powerup my heating (floor) it takes some time and therefore when the setpoint is 20 deg and it shuts off at 21, it easly heats up to 22 deg and higher by residual heat in the system.

Shuting it down earlier should solve this

I think it could be nice to define it by type : night, confort, economy...

Hello,

I completely agree with fred.

Half a degree would be very good so...

I agree too, why not 0.1deg ! It's our problem if we need 0.1 degree or 2 degree !

Exactly Cyrille

Hi Zipato team,

when the heating system has high inertia, if we stop 1°C higher than requested we can finally have +2 and if it is slow to start we have -2 do we have 4° delta at the end. Pretty hard to manage correctly the system in this situation

Could you let us know if you consider this as an enhancement ?

Tks,

We will implement hysteresis parameter during this week.

great !

ah great news !!!!! Awesome

Hi Zipato team,

any news. I thought it would be part of the new release but it just came out and it's not there.

Tks,

Hysteresis was already on the box...

It's the web part that's missing.

ok. Do you know when you plan to add it on the gui ?

This is a good news that!

Hi Zipato team

Do you have ETA for this feature ?

Tks,

Hi zipato,

You let us hope hysteresis should be there pretty quickly. Can you be a bit more specific when we could have it ?

Tks,

UP :) Please let us know.

Hi Zipato team,

Can you let us know when hysteresis could be change in the GUI ?

Tks,

Xavier

Same as xmeslin

Hi team,

Can you let us know. It's very important for me. If you do not plan to do it as you said, I'll have to change the box.

Tks,

Xavier

Good news, it should arrive before starting the heating system.

ah great. Let's cross the fingers. I really want it before this fall :)

Sebastian,

Can you update us on hysteris stuff ?

After a few months last winter without it, I really think it a must have to be able to correctly control the system. I really would like it soon.

Tks,

Xavier

IS there any news about this one, winter is coming soon

it's there already :)

where? :)

in the device settings in the thermostat. There is a H in heating and Cooling

I do not see it, could you make a screenshot please?

here you go. and in the general setting of the zipabox it is indicated as active in the subscriptions

Not for me :( it is written as inactive and if I click on Buy it is displayed some credits

same as you fred, we have to pay for that?

I didn't. I guess it could be a premium feature. Right now I'm testing the feature

If this feature is not free, the box will directly go in the sale section of the TLD forum...

after a few test, there are some ... bugs :)

It works in manual mode but not in program mode. I opened case.

Let's see.

I bought this box a priority for the management of my heating. The hysteresis function should be part of the native climate module.

Me too this function seems to be paying.

Result: no hysteresis -> I can not control my heating.

For me, I'm going to change the box: (

No change compared to last year, can you tell us where you are on this?

Should we pay for a good temperature setting?

Thank you for your reply before winter

any update ?

Many thanks

Hello to all editors of this post,

I had not seen your discusion on this topic, I asked a question in another post. So I'll share the link to the post:

http://community.zipato.com/responses/ecart-de-temperature-de-1-degre-entre-le-sensor-et-la-commande

And this morning as I'm cold to 18 degrees instead of 19, until 19 I will twitter this info to keep me warm.

Bonjour à tous les rédacteurs de ce post,Je n'avais pas vu votre discusion sur ce sujet, j'avais posé une question dans un autre post. Alors je vous partage le lien du poste :

http://community.zipato.com/responses/ecart-de-temperature-de-1-degre-entre-le-sensor-et-la-commandeEt comme ce matin j'ai froid à 18 dégrés au lieu de 19, en attendant les 19 je vais twitter cette info pour me réchauffer.

Hysteresis requires the Premium pack that costs 99 credits for one year. 100 credits cost 100 euros. So I should pay 99,00 euros, every year to adjust my heating system. I think this is unacceptable.

Completely unacceptable indeed.... Let us be clear, it is only an option software, and not hardware... In what the fact to allow to change a variable of "+/-1°C" to "+/-0.1°C" shall cost 99€ / years ???

Are you serious Zipato ?! 5€per year is still expensive ! It should be free, it's incredible to see that...

Any update on this? A most basic feature for a thermostat...

Still no update?

Good morning,

news about this ?

I agree with Cyrille, is not acceptable pay for change hysteresis.

I received from two day my zipato, taken just to manage the heating.

If is not possible or is necessary to pay for just setting I send back e change with other system.

I wait news on this from you.

Thanks.

Gianluca.

Hi Sebastian,

I simply want to be able to set up the system with hysteresis of 0.5 ° C, as mentioned by Milan here:

https://community.zipato.com/responses/change-hysteresis

But unfortunatly Milan maybe you are wrong.

Now the termostat setting in my climate widget have an histeresys of 2 °C

and this is not functional.

In each case in a few days I notice a lot bug, problems and instability of the Zipabox and of the Zipato control center.

I appreciate your work but unfortunatly this system is used for security and adjustment of various systems (boilers, stoves and other) the instabilty of the system is not aptepable, this can cause serious damage.

But I suppose that you know this.

Sorry Sebastian, but I say this because I know what I'm saying.

Thaks to soon.

Gianluca.

Hi guys, I'm new to community and about to buy a Zipabox to manage my heating system.

It seems that it tooks more than one year to Zipa team to add an hysteresis to a climate widget, this seems to be quite a basic setting in my own opinion. 99€/y for this feature, I seriously reconsider buying this box despite I think it's one of the best. What is now the status of this highly wanted and simple feature ? Is this available for free now ?

Hi Raphaël,

We agree with you. More, regulation by hysteresis is not the best solution.

Have you considered this workaround :

You can use a "Secure SRT321" Thermostat that is with more accurate "PID" regulation.

ZIPABOX : ROOM CLIMAT TEMP MEASURE <---

ZIPABOX : ROOM CLIMAT SETPOINT <=======> Secure SRT321 ----- ON/OFF ------> FGS211 or other actuator

You can find more info about PID versus Hysteresis and different methods for heatings control here : http://tutoriels.domotique-store.fr/content/62/115/fr/domotiser-son-chauffage-electrique.html

And SRT321 with Zipabox integration : http://tutoriels.domotique-store.fr/content/70/251/fr/integration-du-thermostat-secure-srt321-avec-la-zipabox.html

Regards,

domotique-store.fr team

Hi all,

I am aware that there are many different solutions to solve the problem.

But I do not understand why you have to pay € 99 per year for a function that should be basic (hysteresis).

There is more correct to pay € 10 or € 20 per year of service cloud data or for upgrade or assistance.

Also I do not understand the silence on this argument.

However I solved the problem at the base ...

Thanks to soon.

Dear Zipato team,

Paying to have this basic function working correctly and providing a basic service is simply NOT acceptable.

Your zipabox is an innovative concept, but your strategy to have users paying monthly or yearly charges for BASIC services to have basic functions usable (usable charts... hysteresis parameter... variable values in message or Http requests....) is simply killing your product and transforming your box into a VERY EXPENSIVE solution, probably among the most expensive on the Market to have same services.

I have same feelings as Gianluce above

1. "Also I do not understand the silence on this argument."

In my case, I lost patience in front of the regressions, the lack of visibility, answers and documentation, and I am changing for another solution.

Fall is coming and today I started heating the house. I could not find any hysteresis settings, so I guess this "exclusive" commodity is still only available for subscribing customers?

On the Zipato home page, it says "Save money by conserving energy". Yeah right, I will not be able to save the 99 euros it would cost to control the temperature of my home.

More from the Zipato home page:

"Scheduler. Scheduling Zipato to activate heating and

cooling automatically is extremely easy and intuitive. You can do it

online through a web browser, using your mouse and keyboard. You can

adjust different temperature modes (e.g. Comfort, Economy, Sleep...),

and later activate those modes with the click of the button."

Should be:

Extremly easy and intuitive. We just "forget" to inform you that it will cost you more than you save to control the temperature of your home.

Wow, they charge for something like this? I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that I'm not going to be able to offer the Zipato as an automation solution for my clients. It's a shame because it has so much potential, but the manufacturer seems to be trying to kill it with lack of support and charging for things that should be standard.

Wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer came out with a good product and then drove it into the ground.

I really wanted it to work too....

Seems like it is implemented now..

Interesting. I do not see this. Which FW do you use?

It is only visible with the virtual thermostat pro.

I can see it, but I am still not able to adjust the hysteresis in less than increments of 0.5 in the web GUI.

It is possible via the app. I have set mine to 0 as the ir extender can only measure 1 degree increments. It is like a hysteresis

I have the Zipabox Duo, and I think one of the main pros with 433 mhz is that the Oregon Scientific hygro/temp or pure temp meters are really good value. They report values in 0.1 centigrades resolution and are relatively cheap. My oldes one reports 90% battery level after 8 months. Even though they only support three different 433 mhz channels, I have had no problems with using 6 devices (2 on each channel). Range is also OK, I think.

OT I know, but maybe not that much ;)