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Simple Switch turn on socket Problem?

Jacob Wiqvist shared this question ago

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Hi Zipato forums!

I have problems with a simple thing.

1) I want my wall socket in the kitchen to be a timer controlled socket.

2) I want the timer to switch on the socket by a spring-loaded Z-Wave button.

3) I want that if I press it again, the same button when the timer is on, the outlet should shut off.

These simple stuff should not be that difficult. The problem is that I do not know what does what, or what the different parts in each unit is?

What determines whether a switch is a toggle ON or Off?

Do you control it through the device, or the rule or both?

Can I get help to create a rule for this, I would be very grateful.

Could I find out more about how each unit under devices work, I would be very grateful.

Best regards Jacob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjDh-iai8p0

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

I don't know if HeroS review is old or if have changed but he say in this review that Fibaro FGS211 dose not work with Zipabox?

http://www.domotica-blog.nl/post/fibaro-fgs211-3kw-review

Zeer stabiel/werkt altijd

Klein

Geen energiemeting

Schroefjes zijn lastig vast te schroeven

Extra schakelaar niet werkend te krijgen met de Zipabox

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Lars ●

In your video the Auto off Timer 15 is Disabeld?

way don't you use the wait blok from the rules and turn the switch of afer the wait 15 sec -> off

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Lars ●

IFF switch ON

Socket ACTION = ON

WAIT 15 sec

Socket ACTION = OFF

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Did what you told me, i think:-) but maybe it is something wrong? Really apriciate your help Lars!

It is easy to feel stupid when things not work!

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Slashroot ●

WHEN INPUT 1 TEST2 SENSOR ON should be -> SENSOR ANY

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Slashroot big thank you. Any chans you can explain why it works?

Finally got it working, but why? In my world if I put a switch to ON it should send a ON signal, regardless of Rule creator, as in real world. And that on signal should trigger the rule?

Then I have the other things of how to create a rule, so when I push the switch again and the timer is ON the socket turns off?

Then I want to create a virtual switch that will trigger a schedule. Socket on 04:50 in the morning. And of course the 50 min timer should turn it off. What ever is triggering the socket, I don’t want it to be on more than 50 min.

Thanks in advance!

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

This did not work:-)

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Sebastian Popovic ●

Your IF conditions doesn't make too much sense, as they are the same as the trigger event (input 1 test2 any). From your rule, I don't really understand what is the goal, but I think something like this should do the job:

WHEN input 1 test2 ANY

-JOIN

-IF input 1 test2 ON

--IF kok vaggutag SENSOR ON

--kok vaggutag ACTION OFF

-kok vaggutag ACTION ON

-WAIT 25 seconds

-kok vaggutag ACTION OFF

SAVE

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

If you meant like this it does not work!

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

And now the socket will not turn of at all after 25 second and also what will happened if you turn on the socket with the App?

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Sebastian Popovic ●

Sorry I was too fast. There are few problems with this rule:

1. whenever you press INPUT 1 TEST2 OFF after ON, it will kill the 25 seconds delay

2. second condition will execute each time, as there is no STOP (I forgot) after the first one

So, in order to make it useful, you should to the following:

WHEN input 1 test 2 ON

-JOIN

--IF kok vaggutag ACTION ON

--kok vaggutag ACTION OFF

- kok vaggutag ACTION ON

- WAIT 25 seconds

- kok vaggutag ACTION OFF

in this case you don't need STOP, and pressing OFF won't harm.

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

What is wrong this time? Any way a sulotin for everything would be good schedule and virtual switch and so on.

Does not work!

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Sebastian Popovic ●

You should use IF/ELSE or STOP after the first "kok vaggutag action off" (my bad again). But if it is not working, you should check with support, as the rule will be fine after this correction.

Don't forget to sync!

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Unabel to try the rul now at work wanted to check if this is what you mean?

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

And when I test rules will this rule with schedule work?

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Or could this work with a virtual switch that starts a schedule?

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Why Is not any one from Zipato helping me to create this simple rules?

Socket ON Timer Switch

Socket OFF switch if Socket On by timer

Socket ON Schedule trigger by Virtual switch

Socket OFF Schedule

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Lars ●

you make it to complex..

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

What I want to do is:

Simpel timer switch that turns on when I press the wall button and make the socket stay on for 50 min. And if I push the same button again the socket will turn off.

At the same time I want to have a schedule that is triggered by my Iphone with a simple click. So if I wake upp early to go to work I want to wake up to fresh coffe and that it turns of before I leave home at 6:00

But lets say I don't work early one day, and I don't want the socket to turn on that day then I want to easy turn off the schedule.

Is this to complicated? A little like the iPhones scheduled alarms you can hav on or off you can have on for every working day and off when you don't work.

But att the moment I can't even toggle the timer on and of?

Pleas help!

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

And or explaining how it works or directing me to where I can read abut it. Just did a forum search, 483 questions about ruls?

Is that ok.

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Sebastian Popovic ●

Actually, it is not bad at all. Considering that there are more then 100.000 rules created so far.

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Whoooooo.... then it is ok. But could you not take 30-40 seconds to post a rule that works. Goggling around to get help is quiet exhausting. Example why did the rule work if I used any stat but not on state?

When I get a hang of this han how it works I will not bother you and the forum so much.

Maybe make my own explanation videos.

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Lars ●

your 1e try is the best correct one.

you have to make the sensor any state only in the when block

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

The socket will not turn of!

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Sebastian Popovic ●

please check out my comment above (below your previous photo)

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Hope there is a solution to al this tomorrow? Going to bed now.

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Lars ●

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Jacob Wiqvist ●

Rule number 10 and 11 works as it should. can't understand why a ANY state should be there it is not when ANY of the two commands are send I want the rule to trigger only when the button is pushed?

Now I only have to understand why it is works, and what is doing what, and also get the virtual switch to turn on the schedule rule. And understand the JOIN block?

But honestly I can't understand why this simple thing had to be this complicated and why the CEO answered wrong 2 times and then expect customers to know how to do.

Any way without complaint to much I am very happy to play around and start getting things to work. Only the rest left:-)

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