Hi, I'm confused with how JOIN instruction works. Could some one explain it?
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How does the controls 'Join' and 'Stop' function
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In the Rules Creator there are two controls; 'Join' and 'Stop' how does these function in a rule?
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'Join' stops all other executions of the same rule, 'Stop' stops the current execution of the rule.
If you want to make something like a stairway timer, you'd put something like
when button clicked
turn the light on
join
wait 30 seconds
turn the light off
Without that 'join', the light would turn off 30 seconds after first button click, no matter how many times you've clicked it in the next 30 seconds.
'Stop' is just our equivalent of the return statement in regular programming languages, and we'll probably rename it to 'Return'.
'Join' stops all other executions of the same rule, 'Stop' stops the current execution of the rule.
If you want to make something like a stairway timer, you'd put something like
when button clicked
turn the light on
join
wait 30 seconds
turn the light off
Without that 'join', the light would turn off 30 seconds after first button click, no matter how many times you've clicked it in the next 30 seconds.
'Stop' is just our equivalent of the return statement in regular programming languages, and we'll probably rename it to 'Return'.
'Join' stops all other executions of the same rule, 'Stop' stops the current execution of the rule.
If you want to make something like a stairway timer, you'd put something like
when button clicked
turn the light on
join
wait 30 seconds
turn the light off
Without that 'join', the light would turn off 30 seconds after first button click, no matter how many times you've clicked it in the next 30 seconds.
'Stop' is just our equivalent of the return statement in regular programming languages, and we'll probably rename it to 'Return'.
'Join' stops all other executions of the same rule, 'Stop' stops the current execution of the rule.
If you want to make something like a stairway timer, you'd put something like
when button clicked
turn the light on
join
wait 30 seconds
turn the light off
Without that 'join', the light would turn off 30 seconds after first button click, no matter how many times you've clicked it in the next 30 seconds.
'Stop' is just our equivalent of the return statement in regular programming languages, and we'll probably rename it to 'Return'.
I do we need to put the join after the turn light on, or before? I had show another example where you put the join at the begenning of your rule ?
I don't understand from wher come the 30 sec in your rule ? it's a default value ?
I do we need to put the join after the turn light on, or before? I had show another example where you put the join at the begenning of your rule ?
I don't understand from wher come the 30 sec in your rule ? it's a default value ?
i have the same question:
- why 30 seconds?
and
- what is the meaning of refresh all?
i have the same question:
- why 30 seconds?
and
- what is the meaning of refresh all?
I don't think it matters as long as the join is after then when condition to isolate the rule and 30s is just a misspell, it should be 45s. See the join as a isolation of the rule to not execute again.
Refresh all, refreshes all devices to its true value.
I don't think it matters as long as the join is after then when condition to isolate the rule and 30s is just a misspell, it should be 45s. See the join as a isolation of the rule to not execute again.
Refresh all, refreshes all devices to its true value.
I Also have problems understanding the join/stop commands, in the example above : will the light be on (i.e 10 mins) until i click the button again and then it would go out after 30 sec. ?
I Also have problems understanding the join/stop commands, in the example above : will the light be on (i.e 10 mins) until i click the button again and then it would go out after 30 sec. ?
Hi Lars
Without that 'join', the light would turn off XX seconds after first
button click, no matter how many times you've clicked it in the next 30
seconds.
With that 'join', the light would stay on XX seconds after last button click
Hi Lars
Without that 'join', the light would turn off XX seconds after first
button click, no matter how many times you've clicked it in the next 30
seconds.
With that 'join', the light would stay on XX seconds after last button click
Can someone meke som more examples whit the Join an STOP actions?
Can someone meke som more examples whit the Join an STOP actions?
if i am right
if motion in motion
turn on light
join
wait 35 sec
turn off the light
if i am right
if motion in motion
turn on light
join
wait 35 sec
turn off the light
sample rule
sample rule
If you are renaming
"stop" >> "return"
then wouldn't it be a good idea to also rename
"join" >> "unique"
?
/Marcus
If you are renaming
"stop" >> "return"
then wouldn't it be a good idea to also rename
"join" >> "unique"
?
/Marcus
Took me a little while to understand the behavior of 'join': so this is how I understand it: Join will stop all 'previous' execution of the rule. So if there is a wait in the rule, a second parallel execution of the rule can occur. When the second rule hits 'join', the previous execution of the rule is stopped.
For instance the rule below will turn light off 120 seconds after sensor is in no motion, unless the rule is trigerred by motion again.
Took me a little while to understand the behavior of 'join': so this is how I understand it: Join will stop all 'previous' execution of the rule. So if there is a wait in the rule, a second parallel execution of the rule can occur. When the second rule hits 'join', the previous execution of the rule is stopped.
For instance the rule below will turn light off 120 seconds after sensor is in no motion, unless the rule is trigerred by motion again.
check out Zipato description in relation to a motion activated light.
https://community.zipato.com/knowledge-base/article/rule-example-motion-activated-light
check out Zipato description in relation to a motion activated light.
https://community.zipato.com/knowledge-base/article/rule-example-motion-activated-light
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